>> I'm at a point where I'm
>>trying to go up the ladder. My time on the job doesn't match
>>my title or knowledge or exposure to important experiences.
>My
>>peers have leveled up in knowledge and
>responsibilities...I've
>>just kept getting raises and I've missed out on growing. I'm
>>starved for knowledge and challenges.
>>
>>The roles I'm going for are actually interesting and looking
>>to the future which is why I'm bummed out about where I am.
>>
>>
>>I go where the interesting projects are.
>>
>
>
>"going up the ladder" seems like you aren't "negotiating"
>where you are correctly. If you have skills and your doing XYZ
>at your job, then how you negotiate at that job would seem to
>determine how much farther you can go "up the ladder"
>
>You shouldn't be "performing" at a job with no type of view of
>the outcome/results of what you are doing at the job if you
>want to go up the ladder.
>
>
>If you are going where the interesting projects are then you
>interviewing at these places where the interesting projects
>are would have to take on the tone MORE about "I can do XYZ
>for these type of projects/new horizons in the industry"
>rather than "my salary has to be this"
>

Maybe I should not have mentioned salary in my original post. It seems to have become a focal point, but also, lets be real, salary is a real concern when it comes to job searching.

>I know it seems not sticking to salary demands seems like not
>being "assertive" but if it really is about the interesting
>projects/and more importantly the kind of tech company "right"
>for you, then salary has to go on the back burner because
>there SHOULD BE TOO MANY 'NOT RIGHT' OTHER TECH COMPANIES WITH
>LACKLUSTER PROJECTS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE WORKING AT"
>


I should not have mentioned salary here. Nowhere in my original post did I say none of the projects weren't interesting.

My actual ranking of decision-making factors regarding a new job would be:

1. 2 to 4 year trajectory. I'm 41, I'm black, I'm in tech, I have two young kids. This is either a hard sell or an easy sell, but I'm not taking chances. I want to be in a really solid position for what comes after the next role. There a ton of roles out there doing some really boring and basic stuff and it pays really well. I want to move into a place that sets up the next ten years.

2. Does this role offer growth and challenges to grow my skill set? Is there a progression for the profession within the company? There is no current progression in my role. I mean, I could get superficial titles tacked on ("_____ senior ll"), but its meaningless if I'm doing the same thing I do but just a bit better.

3. Opportunity cost / Quality of Life. Will I see my kids? Will this role affect my health or quality of life?

4. Salary.

>So...you do what you have to do (lower salary) to get the
>RIGHT OPPORTUNITY AT THE RIGHT PLACE.
>
>There really can't be "too many" "right" places.

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