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auragin_boi
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Mon Jun-13-22 04:51 PM

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1. "You need an HR friend...preferably in tech"
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Mon Jun-13-22 04:52 PM by auragin_boi

  

          

Of the ones you listed, I would have given you some advice on this one:

- I'm tapped for a director role. We go back and forth. I go through every round and things are looking strong. I'm given a test and I exceed expectation. I've not worked in this particular industry, but I have experience changing industry (not role) every few years. At the end of the interviews, weeks of indecision. I'm contacted to be told they are still thinking. Then I'm told that they don't want me for the director role, but a lower role (at the same pay I'm making now) with the idea that once I "show them that they didn't have anything to worry about" I would be upgraded to the role I was originally considered for. Nigga please.

It's ok to accept a back-fill lateral. You'd be astonished at how many companies/managers are either insecure about making the wrong hire or want to make people earn the job. Then they come up with these 'safety net' scenarios. But what I would have told you is...

"Get everything in writing".
1-Ask for the evaluation period to be specified (6 mos? 1yr?) and I would have said argue for a 6 month eval period but no more than 9.

2-Get that 'end of the road' title in writing. If it doesn't work out, you can always say you were 'contracting' when you're back on the market but if it does work out, we not doing the 'well you can do the job but we feel like you'd be good as an Assistant Associate Jr. Director'. Nope.

3-Get the agreed upon salary set. Ok, trail me for x evaluation period, but should I meet or exceed expectations, I want Y dollars for the role. (Let's say you were hunting $120K-135K for this type of role and would have taken $120K easy since it'd be your first director role, well making you prove yourself now comes with a premium because you KNOW you can do the job, so the range is now $135K-150K and I'm taking nothing less. Get it in writing.)

4-Get clearly defined measurables. What they need, what they want done and deadlines to do so if necessary.

*5-If you REALLY wanted to swing for the fences when negotiating, add a provision stating that if you don't meet their expectations, that the have to employ you in the same role you're doing for them for at least 6 months while you seek other employment (rather than them just being able to lay you off).

That offer letter would have been all types of legally binding lol:

Mr. Double Negative
1234 Okayplayer Lane
Anywhere City, USA 54321

We are pleased to offer you the role of (not director)! This role comes with a probationary period of (8 months) during which we will evaluate your skills and abilities. At the end of the 8 month probationary period, should you meet or exceed expectations aligned in the addendum A of this offer, the items in addendum B, which outlines promotional and compensatory considerations agreed upon by both parties, will become effective on (insert date).

Because in the end, you make a professional leap and you lose nothing to prove that you deserve it as you'd have a similar title to your current job at the same pay. And at worse, an 8 month delay in your job search isn't the worst thing in the world (hell, maybe the job market is friendlier in Early 2023 than today).


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My job hunt has me down ya'll. [View all] , double negative, Mon Jun-13-22 03:24 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Well played. In the end, the scenario smelled off
Jun 13th 2022
5
      Oh, I feel you...but I was going based on this...
Jun 14th 2022
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From the VERY OUTSIDE looking in...it seems like....
Jun 13th 2022
2
not quite.
Jun 13th 2022
4
      RE: not quite.
Jun 13th 2022
7
           RE: not quite.
Jun 14th 2022
13
FAANG vs FAANG is the name of the game
Jun 13th 2022
3
Yep
Jun 13th 2022
6
Good luck fam.
Jun 14th 2022
9
RE: My job hunt has me down ya'll.
Jun 14th 2022
10
but you know what...I have that in mind and it's a good thing in a way
Jun 14th 2022
14
Why are you set on jumping 2+ levels?
Jun 14th 2022
11
I'm looking to match my current tasks and responsibilities
Jun 14th 2022
12
      If it was up to you? I think it is up to you.. lol
Jun 15th 2022
16
      Lets act like you know what I mean.
Jun 15th 2022
18
      Have you heard from the other 5 people you need in your corner?
Jun 15th 2022
17
           yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah
Jun 15th 2022
19
RE: My job hunt has me down ya'll.
Jun 14th 2022
15
I'm a dirty ass designer.
Jun 15th 2022
20
Word...We got front-end and back-end roles, but I feel you...
Jun 15th 2022
22
Y'all doing WFH?
Jun 15th 2022
21
      RE: Y'all doing WFH?
Jun 15th 2022
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