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53. "just jumped back in to answer this..."
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Ask tho, why in 2019 is there no
>black version of Adele who's loved by all those races as Adele
>is?

There is no black version of Adele because Adele lucked the fuck out. When her first album dropped she was probably seen at the same level as say Lianna La Havas... Talented... Mercury Awards level acclaim but not the monster she became.

With Amy passing there was this huge void and her essentially jumping back out on 21 as the White Aretha (Thank err Rick Rubin) filled that void.

At the time she blew on Columbia Rick Rubin was co chair and Rob Stringer (british exec) was the other co chair.

So you have one of the "best" record producers/reducers over the past 20 years and someone intent on blowing up british talent and a talented artist that can fill the nostalgia void Amy left and bong.

now...

After her success, there was another British Artist that COULD have scaled like that. Emile Sande. She tore through the UK sold millions and was very much the next big export. They tried to break her in US and at the time she was already over 2million sold in UK.

She comes here and its crickets... Not the same reception Adele had (and later Sam Smith would have). Think she topped out at 200k

Now back to the question why...

There IS a fundamental industry/radio issue that has always existed. If you have 2 artists that have the same exact song 1 white & 1 black the white artist is automatically going to pop radio vs the black artist that will start at urban and then scale or "crossover". (Streaming has helped make this a non-factor though) but in Adele's time that wasnt yet the case.

So if what can happen is a song like lets say John Legend "All Of Me" will start at Urban A/C... THEN has to go to Urban R&B/Hip Hop THEN Pop radio.

w/o the gravitas and budget it is SUPER hard for a new artist to scale that wall.. which is why streaming has become so important BUT where streaming fails you is your dope piano power ballad is now playlisted with a ton of other piano ballads... so it doesn't stand out (as it would on radio) it purposely fits in.

So in order to get a black artist like Adele to scale you have to first... get black people to support an artist that isn't turnt up in any way at streaming and/or shows then at radio THEN hope the budget (or personnel) is still there to take it to younger demo at pop radio.

In contrast

Lizzo sat around with slow growth for years. Then got a couple of Licensing Syncs in 2018/19 and the label was able to follow up with radio and marketing to finally connect the dots.. this all happened to occur in a time where women in rap is finally a thing and BONG.

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azealia banks be trippin, going after Lizzy [View all] , tariqhu, Thu Sep-05-19 02:38 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
LOL....Damn Azaelia, tell us how you really feel!
Sep 05th 2019
1
sad that this is the only way people know her.
Sep 05th 2019
10
*searching for the lie...*
Sep 06th 2019
19
I felt so bad for laughing
Sep 09th 2019
40
Synopsis: "Lizzo's Fat. And a mammy. A fat mammy. Also...
Sep 05th 2019
2
She actually said a LOT more than that
Sep 07th 2019
29
I only ever read about her on this site.
Sep 05th 2019
3
Same here...
Sep 05th 2019
6
same here.
Sep 05th 2019
8
i love her music (bought broke with expensive taste)
Sep 05th 2019
12
broke clock is right twice a day
Sep 05th 2019
4
sour grapes
Sep 05th 2019
5
we'll never know...
Sep 05th 2019
11
Bye Azelia..... Take yo ass back to Austria....
Sep 05th 2019
7
you gonna send both of them back to where they come from?
Sep 05th 2019
9
Smh @ her going after Vince Staples too
Sep 05th 2019
13
remember when Neo dodged all them bullets?
Sep 06th 2019
17
DAMN!....That bitch is batshit crazy!
Sep 06th 2019
27
RE: Smh @ her going after Vince Staples too
Oct 04th 2019
52
This is a good take:
Sep 05th 2019
14
she's siting.on.the.floor. pass....
Sep 06th 2019
15
      RE: she's siting.on.the.floor. pass....
Sep 06th 2019
22
And so, her media cycle begins again.
Sep 06th 2019
16
Never thought it'd happen but I agree with azealia banks
Sep 06th 2019
18
She makes some valid points, but she's fucking messy with the context.
Sep 06th 2019
20
RE: She makes some valid points, but she's fucking messy with the contex...
Sep 06th 2019
23
to be clear, its Lizzo.
Sep 06th 2019
21
      RE: to be clear, its Lizzo.
Sep 06th 2019
24
           eating cake is setting things back?
Sep 06th 2019
25
           Nigga she was smiling on camera!!
Sep 06th 2019
26
           She wasn't just eating cake.
Sep 07th 2019
32
           She's visually done the same shit that Nicki Minaj has done.
Sep 09th 2019
34
                They should have called Niki one too.
Sep 09th 2019
36
                To be fair, I thought Nicki in the jungle eating bananas was coon-ish.
Sep 09th 2019
38
                yeah they did call her coonery out
Sep 09th 2019
42
Body shaming an artist cause she's getting her shine.
Sep 07th 2019
28
It wasn't all body shaming. She critiqued the white power structure
Sep 07th 2019
30
Apparently she DOES put out music and it's great. But I wouldn't know.
Sep 09th 2019
37
She's not all wrong
Sep 07th 2019
31
Yup.
Sep 09th 2019
33
Yuuuup
Sep 09th 2019
35
Yep. I wouldn't call Lizzo's thing cooning. But...
Sep 09th 2019
39
*nvm*
Sep 09th 2019
41
RE: She's not all wrong
Sep 09th 2019
43
      slightly different...
Sep 09th 2019
44
      RE: slightly different...
Sep 09th 2019
47
      U're talking what sells. We're talking Black empowerment
Sep 10th 2019
49
          
I look at Lizzo and think ...
Sep 09th 2019
45
Damn
Sep 09th 2019
46
LOL
Sep 10th 2019
48
RE: As a matter of fact I think I wanna be her
Oct 01st 2019
50
A.B will find a reason to come for anyone. She went on a cocaine crazed
Oct 04th 2019
51
Is this strategy even "working" for her?
Oct 04th 2019
54
she's awful
Oct 04th 2019
55

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