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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Poll question: All Black District or Black People in all districts?"


  

          

Let's say a state has five congressional districts and the population of the state is 20% black. You can draw congressional district lines all sorts of ways but the choice comes down to either:

1. Create one all black district and leaving the other four districts without black voters; or

2. Spread out the black votes so each district is 20% black.



If you had to pick one of the two which one would you choose and explain your answer.

Poll result (24 votes)
All Black District (8 votes)Vote
Black People in All Districts (16 votes)Vote

  

  

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All Black District or Black People in all districts? [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-27-17 06:50 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
In a less fucked up world I'd say in all but the lines are drawn
Jun 27th 2017
1
I want to be in all the districts.
Jun 27th 2017
2
this is the toughest question for me around gerrymandering reform
Jun 27th 2017
3
it would take a whole lot of coming together for all black to flourish
Jun 27th 2017
4
It's not possible for everyone to flourish
Jun 27th 2017
7
      all lives matter dude...
Jun 27th 2017
      the lives of those that kill us and those that support it do not matter
Jun 27th 2017
11
      You are weird
Jun 28th 2017
29
      all lives matter dude...
Jun 27th 2017
9
      This is what gets me -- how folks don't seem to get the black dollar
Jun 27th 2017
10
      its a good idea in theory but we don't have the infrastructure
Jun 27th 2017
14
           idk bout that...MD is a good example imo
Jun 27th 2017
17
                RE: idk bout that...MD is a good example imo
Jun 28th 2017
39
                     Other than issues with law enforcement (in bmore) quite well tbh
Jun 28th 2017
42
                          Do black people own BGE?
Jun 28th 2017
59
                               No...We don't have a Black owned energy utility...it's corporate
Jun 28th 2017
68
                                    ITS A TRAP!
Jun 28th 2017
77
                                    HE NEED A WINDSOR KNOT
Jun 30th 2017
92
well that sounds like segregation
Jun 27th 2017
5
America is already segregated though is it not?
Jun 27th 2017
12
lean towards blue because strategically we need to spread out
Jun 27th 2017
6
RE: All Black District or Black People in all districts?
Jun 27th 2017
8
I think that's what I am getting it.
Jun 27th 2017
13
considering NC tries Red and we see how that goes, im going to say Blue
Jun 27th 2017
15
if u spread out the black vote, is there a black vote?
Jun 27th 2017
16
NOPE
Jun 27th 2017
20
In this scenario.....Red.
Jun 27th 2017
18
concentrated power >>>>> dispersed power
Jun 27th 2017
19
concentrated group of people =/= power
Jun 28th 2017
21
      History disagrees
Jun 28th 2017
24
      US History?
Jun 28th 2017
26
           yes I'd say US history
Jun 28th 2017
27
           civil rights movement, black power movement, reconstruction
Jun 28th 2017
70
                see post 33
Jun 29th 2017
87
      This isn't true
Jun 28th 2017
31
           I'm confused then. I thought this post was about physical presence ie;
Jun 28th 2017
33
                I'm peaking in so you might be right but..
Jun 28th 2017
35
                     I think there's overlap,but it's about the makeup of districts
Jun 28th 2017
37
This question is the very reason people need to know history.
Jun 28th 2017
22
seems to work for Latinos, Gays, Whites, Semites (both), etc
Jun 28th 2017
23
for Whites yes....
Jun 28th 2017
25
      You don't get a black wall street by spreading out
Jun 28th 2017
28
           yep
Jun 28th 2017
30
           I don't agree with using a white majority as an example of how a minorit...
Jun 28th 2017
32
                it's not a so called minority majority issue it's cultural one
Jun 28th 2017
34
                     ^^^^
Jun 28th 2017
36
                     Self segregation would seem to make control by the majority easier
Jun 28th 2017
38
                          which type of targeting do you prefer? Targeted with power or without?
Jun 28th 2017
40
                          I prefer no targeting at all
Jun 28th 2017
47
                               We all do. Ain't happening in America
Jun 28th 2017
49
                               But it's not like WE gave it away.
Jun 28th 2017
51
                                    right? How many black community dollars were lost due to that?
Jun 28th 2017
52
                                    "All it takes is" = we though. lol.. They let em in, WE let em put their...
Jun 28th 2017
56
                                         black people welcomed white people in the past due to lies
Jun 28th 2017
63
                          Status? Lmao
Jun 28th 2017
41
                          impact.
Jun 28th 2017
43
                          Nah
Jun 28th 2017
44
                               I didn't add a qualifier to that on purpose. I didn't say it was better
Jun 28th 2017
45
                                    True but you did use Hip Hop spreading out to support
Jun 28th 2017
46
                                         Not implying that at all. My full statement summerizes the point I was
Jun 28th 2017
48
                                              The problem with your argument is who is benefitting the most from it?
Jun 28th 2017
50
                                                   I'm just highlighting the potential gains if the approach is executed
Jun 28th 2017
57
                                                        No gain
Jun 28th 2017
62
BTW, Self-Segregation is WAY BETTER than forced Segregation
Jun 28th 2017
54
Not at all. This post is strictly about real estate...or so I thought.
Jun 28th 2017
58
      then I don't think you want to make the general statement...
Jun 28th 2017
74
           Choosing to attend an HBCU isn't self segregation.
Jun 29th 2017
80
A lot of elders think that integration fucked-up our communities
Jun 28th 2017
55
Those glory days are over unfortunately. Attempting to go back
Jun 28th 2017
60
      it's not for us to spec on what was or was not experienced
Jun 28th 2017
64
      Who's speculating? Go out and talk to any Black person over 60
Jun 29th 2017
81
      Those days *are* past, but they do make some valid points
Jun 28th 2017
67
      My point is we don't know what kind of fight elders had or didn't have
Jun 29th 2017
88
self segregation is VERY different than forced segregation.
Jun 28th 2017
71
only one thing -- we don't have legal protections
Jun 28th 2017
72
I didn't say it wasn't...
Jun 29th 2017
82
This reply is the reason ppl need to UNDERSTAND history.
Jun 29th 2017
78
      I never stated it as a stride or a total win.
Jun 29th 2017
79
           You're clearly saying it's better than segregation.
Jun 29th 2017
83
                They were looking us in the eye when they brought us here lol
Jun 29th 2017
84
                And every day on the plantation.
Jun 29th 2017
85
                RE: You're clearly saying it's better than segregation.
Jun 29th 2017
86
My original question wasn't really about physical location.
Jun 28th 2017
53
sorry. Does splitting them up = 1 strong representative/advocate
Jun 28th 2017
61
Doesn't guarantee it. But doesn't mean it's impossible.
Jun 28th 2017
75
1 black district is still better IMO
Jun 28th 2017
65
RE: 1 black district is still better IMO
Jun 28th 2017
66
      the decisions white people make will always be in their favor
Jun 28th 2017
76
I'm mistrustful of any attempt to divide black communities into smaller ...
Jun 28th 2017
69
      Recognize though that your framing is racist.
Jun 28th 2017
73
           Racist? How the fuck did you come to this come conclusion?
Jun 30th 2017
89
20% is a lot. If the remaining 80 percent is split down the middle
Jun 30th 2017
90
agreed
Jun 30th 2017
91
The right answer
Sep 27th 2021
93
Good answer
Sep 28th 2021
95
Option 2 is best as long as the distribution isn't done strategically...
Sep 27th 2021
94

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