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26. "RE: Black lives matter at Evergreen College"
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Sun Jun-04-17 04:40 AM by denny

          

A portion of what I attempted to write in the OP didn't get posted due to me being technologically inept. In anycase...here's some of the footage that was uploaded to youtube by the protesters. My teens showed this stuff to my SO and I....They thought it was hilarious. We were very disturbed. We're so lucky that our teens don't subscribe to this stuff. I've been defending BLM to my whole family for a couple years now...but I think they've finally persuaded me.

Here's some footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg

at the 3 minute mark....a young woman asks 'Is there any black folks that need water in here?' It's become a running joke in my house this weekend. 'Do any of the black people want orange juice with their pancakes?' Apparently there were signs at the meeting stating that the drinks and food and chairs were for black people and that white people were encouraged to stand in the back. Smh. Also, the basic lack of respect for elders (a value that I think usually runs much stronger amongst black youth in general) is appalling. These kids literally need a spanking.

At the 4:50 mark a young woman says (to the white president of the school) 'You're speaking to your ancestor. We've been here before you. We built these cities. We had civilization way before you had...coming out your caves'.

Here's Bret Weinstein speaking with angry protesters outside his classroom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTnDpoQLNaY

One thing that should be pointed out....several students (non-protesters) have said that the 'Day of Absence' has been misreported. The activist groups at Evergreen had been objecting to his lectures prior to his email about 'Day of Absence'. He's a biologist and there's an idealogical war happening between the biology departments and the protest groups. Put simply....the post-modernists claim that the foundation of western biology is racist, sexist and homophobic.

In reality, barely anyone stayed home and the ones who did were almost exclusively in the humanities departments. Makes Weinstein look questionable imo. He never shares that in his news interviews which makes him look like a fear-mongerer. I agree with Weinstein's email....but it's kinda unethical to go on Foxnews and portray the day of absence without acknowledging that it's not a school-wide major event. I support his email and I agree with his idealogical opposition to the event...but he shouldn't omit the information that this was a smaller-scaled event that most people just ignored without repercussion.

Here's an hour of footage of the emergency meeting called after protesters shut down Weinstein's class and security was called:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3CRVLVGa5E

I watched the whole hour and was in shock. I think I might have been traumatized lol. And if I was ever cornered by a group like this and they started doing that snapping thing while one of them lectured me....Man, that snapping thing is the most effective shit they do. My face would turn beet red. I doubt I could even formulate a cohesive argument while they're snapping.

I see this stuff as a father. Our oldest teens went to trade schools and still ran into some of this stuff. They're already finished...but they're very resistant to this stuff anyways. Our other daughter is a bit more agreeable with protest groups and she's gonna start university in 2 years, most likely take a social science. She looks up to the older one though...so I'm trusting that she'll help guide her away from that stuff. Watching her in a group like this snapping is the stuff of nightmares.

Here's the protesters seizing the President of the school's office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPZ8SXQBqvg

Perhaps the worst of them all. Demanding that their assignment due-dates be postponed because they are there, holding the president of the school hostage, 'on their own time' lol. Eating pizza and tweeting and making fun of an elder. Disgusting. I'd rather catch my kids smoking crack than see them participate in a video like that.

Here's footage after the students seized control of a college building and barricaded the doors with furniture. They gathered faculty members into a boardroom under guard and told them they were not allowed to leave the room:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msfsp5Ofz4g

At the 5 minute mark...my soul dies a little bit. The president of the school asks the protest organizer if he can pee. He's told to hold it.

Oh man oh man oh man I wish I was there. I've only REALLY layed into our teens on 2 or 3 occasions. The biggest one wasn't even one of ours. It was this kid living with us for a few months. I planned that episode for a couple days with his mom. Brought him to his mother's house and just broke. him. down. I love this kid but it was necessary. And y'know...i really look at that experience as deeply spiritual and I'm not a spiritual person in any regard. It was like a ritual....like expelling the boy so the man can emerge....but having to kinda bring the boy out so he could be transformed. I would never tell the other teens what happened because it's deeply personal. It went on for hours and it was like the lecture made him regress to a baby. I could literally see the 2 year old boy in his face and the dude is 6'7. He smashed his laptop into pieces and just had the biggest cry. Like one being held back for years. But it's the putting back together after you break someone down.

That happened last summer and he's now an assistant manager at a nice restaurant. That day changed his life. He goes to the gym, plays basketball, works and most importantly, helps his mom who has health problems. This dude had found new ways to manipulate his surroundings to accommodate his laziness. Boys need men and they need to be held to standard. I'm admittedly ranting...but that's what I think of when I see this stuff. At the end of the day....these are kids and it's not their fault that their teachers are poisoning their minds with this garbage. I'd love the opportunity to sit down with kids like this one on one and plant seeds of doubt in their worldviews. I think the key to it is gratitude. You HAVE to be grateful for something. That gives you motivation. Without gratitude, we become narcissistic and are incapable of setting goals and completing accomplishments.

I also think we're on the cusp of change in these trends. I predict in 5 years from now....these idealogies and more specifically, protest culture, will be extremely out of fashion. So much so...I think we can expect a very unpleasant backlash that outright dismisses even the fruitful aspects of post-modernism. Pragmatism for example.

  

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Black lives matter at Evergreen College [View all] , denny, Fri Jun-02-17 09:53 PM
 
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How do you say "go fuck yourself" in gibberish?
Jun 02nd 2017
1
Line stepping?
Jun 04th 2017
24
      Your "validation" of blackness or black effectiveness is toothless
Jun 04th 2017
27
           ...
Jun 05th 2017
28
                It's obvious neither of us cares about what the other is typing
Jun 05th 2017
33
                     smh
Jun 05th 2017
39
                          You. Not an individual white person. You specifically.
Jun 05th 2017
42
dude woke up last week and decided he wanted to start some shit
Jun 02nd 2017
2
No.
Jun 02nd 2017
3
i know the story. the white dude did wake up one day
Jun 02nd 2017
5
      like literally, he decided to get posting on twitter
Jun 02nd 2017
6
           I thought you were riding with Denny. My fault.
Jun 02nd 2017
7
A quote:
Jun 02nd 2017
4
What is your point?
Jun 03rd 2017
8
      I do. I think he's wrong as fuck.
Jun 03rd 2017
9
           Why did you make the "non-male" distinction?
Jun 03rd 2017
10
           Because #youoksis is full of black men stories
Jun 03rd 2017
11
                Is this story about a "day of absence" for white ppl or something else?
Jun 03rd 2017
22
                     same here
Jun 19th 2017
140
           RE: I do. I think he's wrong as fuck.
Jun 03rd 2017
12
                Who's we? Post a pic
Jun 03rd 2017
13
                     Your foundation is weak.
Jun 03rd 2017
14
                          Got it. Sit this one out Greg
Jun 03rd 2017
15
                               "No whites!" - MEAT
Jun 03rd 2017
16
                                    This you? 4. "For what it's worth"
Jun 03rd 2017
17
                                         We gon be alright
Jun 03rd 2017
18
                                         I'm glad you could get to the bottom of the real issue
Jun 03rd 2017
19
                                              You'll live. Go play Bocce, it's Saturday.
Jun 03rd 2017
20
                                                   LOL
Jun 03rd 2017
21
What do you mean by 'starting some shit'?
Jun 04th 2017
23
      RE: What do you mean by 'starting some shit'?
Jun 04th 2017
25
      RE: What do you mean by 'starting some shit'?
Jun 06th 2017
78
I came checking for an evergreen college post but you Bamma'd
Jun 05th 2017
29
White people love telling black people how to be.
Jun 05th 2017
31
      ^^^^
Jun 05th 2017
32
      I hear you but them Evergreen kids are obnoxious and appear
Jun 05th 2017
34
           what's the actual breakdown of this story?
Jun 05th 2017
35
           Post four
Jun 05th 2017
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           thx
Jun 05th 2017
41
                No.
Jun 05th 2017
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           Like there can be no spin. LOL.
Jun 05th 2017
38
                I meant your breakdown... I'm not trying to read all that right now
Jun 05th 2017
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           They could be 1000% wrong (they're not) and denny still shouldn't speak
Jun 05th 2017
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                They could publically claim I'm sub-human and a genetic defect
Jun 05th 2017
43
                I would whistle to the beat of your tear drops.
Jun 05th 2017
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                OK, I am black. So now that we got your authenticity test out the
Jun 05th 2017
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                     It's not an authenticity test. This wasn't about generic white people.
Jun 05th 2017
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                          Ok but you do so the difference between voluntarily associations
Jun 05th 2017
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                               RE: Ok but you do so the difference between voluntarily associations
Jun 05th 2017
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                               why can't kids in college protest shit on campus?
Jun 05th 2017
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                               That they are in college is kind of the point of why they shouldn't
Jun 05th 2017
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                                    Meh.
Jun 05th 2017
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                               Additionally this government has never been a neutral actor
Jun 05th 2017
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                               what were you doing in college Buddy? GTFOH bruh...
Jun 05th 2017
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                                    Dumb shit, which gives me special insight into seeing dumb shit.
Jun 05th 2017
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                                         Better to do your dumb shit early.
Jun 05th 2017
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                                              Except pole-vaulters aren't motivated by a hate-based idealogy.
Jun 06th 2017
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                                                   You'll live white man.
Jun 06th 2017
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                                                   This kids aren't advocating hate. They are being short-sighted
Jun 06th 2017
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                                                        Nah dude is the victim. All he can sympathize with is the white ego.
Jun 06th 2017
65
                                                        Tenets of Critical theory:
Jun 07th 2017
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I watched about 15 seconds of your 1st video...WTF is the connection
Jun 06th 2017
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      Worse than that, he states in his original post the org has no value.
Jun 06th 2017
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      I missed this post and a chance to respond.
Jun 10th 2017
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           I stopped reading at 'I was misinformed' (c) Denny
Jun 10th 2017
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                What exactly is your pont?
Jun 10th 2017
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                     the point is that you're constantly off base looking for confirmation
Jun 19th 2017
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Denny, stop stroking yourself.
Jun 05th 2017
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I'll cop to being self-congratulatory in tone.
Jun 06th 2017
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      It's no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick socie...
Jun 06th 2017
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      RE: It's no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick s...
Jun 06th 2017
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      Also wanted to say....
Jun 06th 2017
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      Your refined racism is all too obvious to me, denny.
Jun 17th 2017
132
           ^^^
Jun 19th 2017
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      Do you have kids? It's hard to imagine a person with children 9edit)
Jun 06th 2017
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      There is nothing nihilistic about facing reality.
Jun 06th 2017
70
           You are the epitome of dorm room activism. LOL.
Jun 06th 2017
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                And you kick it in your racist white neighbor's house then cry to us
Jun 06th 2017
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                     LOL. Ain't nobody cry about nothing.
Jun 06th 2017
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                          Yeah sure. That's enough of your trolling for one day.
Jun 06th 2017
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                               That's just as easy.
Jun 06th 2017
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                                    I requested intelligence, but I'll respond to your attempt at it.
Jun 07th 2017
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      http://gph.is/28UVs7K
Jun 06th 2017
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      You should have lead with this and probably not tied it to Evergreen
Jun 06th 2017
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      When people tell you who they are believe them.
Jun 06th 2017
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      When people don't signal my virtues....categorize them.
Jun 10th 2017
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      people always want to lead with this and then make it about something el...
Jun 06th 2017
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      I tirelessly watched hours of footage.
Jun 07th 2017
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      gratitude isn't a left problem or a campus problem or a generational pro...
Jun 06th 2017
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      I don't think the two are mutually exclusive
Jun 06th 2017
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      I think that's a mischaracterization
Jun 06th 2017
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      Willfully blind statement.
Jun 07th 2017
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      i don't follow
Jun 07th 2017
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           THERE IS NOONE who has talked more about alt-right than me.
Jun 07th 2017
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                i didn't say anything about the alt right.
Jun 10th 2017
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                     Dont worry Bro, he just T.U.I'n right now.
Jun 10th 2017
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                     I wasn't clear there.....
Jun 10th 2017
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      I'm not saying we shouldn't be critical of society.
Jun 10th 2017
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           so your issue with them is they're prone to hyperbole?
Jun 10th 2017
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                My issue is with critical race studies.
Jun 10th 2017
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                     so your issue is with the overgeneralizing of their criticisms?
Jun 10th 2017
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                          Every single non-Stem department has been taken over by critical theory.
Jun 10th 2017
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      I don't disagree with you but you should be careful not to sound
Jun 06th 2017
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           I tried to read it.
Jun 07th 2017
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                wtf
Jun 19th 2017
144
Updates:
Jun 10th 2017
90
I wonder which building Weinstein's, a biological sciences professor, of...
Jun 11th 2017
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Statement of solidarity from Faculty.
Jun 10th 2017
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an added point.
Jun 10th 2017
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      The link above does not include the filter settings.
Jun 10th 2017
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           AND ANOTHER THING!!!!!!!!
Jun 10th 2017
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Another biology prof from Evergreen speaks out
Jun 10th 2017
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Naima Lowe speaks out:
Jun 15th 2017
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The Media Brought the Alt-Right to My Campus
Jun 16th 2017
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need to listen to these young people
Jun 16th 2017
111
I saw the clip on Vice News....
Jun 16th 2017
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Read two posts up.
Jun 16th 2017
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      First off, I already know what the issue is
Jun 16th 2017
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           I'm an adult. Saying you're acting like a ho now.
Jun 16th 2017
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                Calling names without talking about the actual issue?
Jun 16th 2017
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                     Piggy backing on ho ass denny, ignoring the kids actual words
Jun 16th 2017
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                          You assumed I didn't grasp the start of the incident.....
Jun 16th 2017
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                               You watched the clip and the kids are full of shit
Jun 16th 2017
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                                    Yes...they had all the leverage on that issue.....
Jun 16th 2017
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                                         Black students have zero leverage over a white man and a national
Jun 16th 2017
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                                         Whatever.....stay on your soapbox
Jun 16th 2017
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                                         One of us is defending black people one of us is finding nuance in denny
Jun 16th 2017
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                                              Just because they have a point doesn't mean it's well executed
Jun 16th 2017
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                                                   The fact that you want to contribute to a conversation about blackness
Jun 16th 2017
128
                                                        So you had nothing to say back about what I said
Jun 16th 2017
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                                                             Not a word.
Jun 16th 2017
130
                                                             Wait. Your bonehead ass isn't black either?
Jun 17th 2017
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                                                                  He's Asian.
Jun 17th 2017
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                                                                  His fault
Jun 17th 2017
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                                                                  lmao
Jun 19th 2017
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                                         holy fuck man...it's like polar poast
Jun 19th 2017
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                                         There is alot of misinformation in this exchange.
Jun 16th 2017
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                                              You a bitch.
Jun 16th 2017
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                                                   glass houses fam...
Jun 19th 2017
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                                                        I feel like some folks are addicted to white criticism.
Jun 19th 2017
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                                                             i feel u
Jun 19th 2017
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Both had a point. Both executed it horribly.
Jun 16th 2017
127
Escellent article here:
Jun 17th 2017
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LET. IT. GO.
Jun 17th 2017
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      There are several reasons why this is relevant to me personally.
Jun 17th 2017
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           RE: There are several reasons why this is relevant to me personally.
Jun 17th 2017
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                RE: There are several reasons why this is relevant to me personally.
Jun 18th 2017
139
Bump bump
Jun 17th 2020
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New doc on the Evergreen matter (link)
Jun 17th 2020
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WOW THEY NUKED IT.
Jun 17th 2020
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taibbi post is gone?
Jun 17th 2020
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      YEP. NO EXPLANATION
Jun 17th 2020
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           that sucks. i'm pretty much for never deleting posts
Jun 17th 2020
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