22. "RE: My only counter would be white people buy into this thinking too" In response to In response to 18 Tue Apr-11-17 02:38 PM by BigReg
>If you go into any success academy type charter school the >schools are constantly drilling into the kids that they can do >anything and don't let their environment hold them down. It >would also seem that those schools always hold their children >to a higher standard. But this is cool because they are >speaking this stuff directly to the kids.
They are but it still isn't as cut/dry. For instance a kid fucks up because of something out of his control (something with the parents) they aren't going to blame them; they hold them responsible for things within their relative control.
>At the same time if Newt Gingrinch wants to spout this stuff >at the Heritage Foundation retreat it's bullshit. > >Also Common talking that talk is a bad look on Daily Show. But >a black preacher in a black church wouldn't catch no slack for >the same message.
Black church has hella issues though for all the good it does at the same time. The same self-hate ideal I brought up is def. evident in black church.
I agree there are things we can critique 'among folks' that we don't want anyone else talking about. The bootstrap thing though is such a tired tirade tho and simplistic; many of the people they are speaking to FIRMLY feel that they are doing their best in their situation. Thus to come in with this outside world view thinking you're speaking truth to someone to tell them to go to college when they are a 25 year old ex-felon without a high school diploma and even the local fast food joint won't even hire em.
As far as ofay goes we all know they love a bootstrap story because it helps them feel better then the others; that they are 'self made'. Shit, listening to that S-Town podcast its fascinating how even the trashiest of white trash still believes they are better then people who find a way to be poorer and the negros.