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"Republicans will not admit: There are 5 distinct healthcare systems in t..."
Wed Mar-15-17 12:27 PM by handle

          

1)Socialized Medicine
This is run by the government using their own hospitals and doctors and is available to members of the armed services. Examples: Active duty medical care . Certain aspects of the VA/VHA system.

2)Single Payer
This is healthcare paid by the government completely - but the actual care takes place at private facilities. Examples: Medicare (and state run programs like Medi-Cal), TriCare (For reserves, and retired unless they qualify for VHA.)

3)Employer Based Insurance Private Coverage
These are insurance plans your employee signs up as a group and allows it's employees to enroll in. Sometimes the cost is minimal to the employee, other times they pay the full cost.

4)Private Insurance Coverage
This is insurance you pay for completely on your own. The terms of coverage and the need for profits are what determines the cost.

5)Fee for Service
If you have a lot of money you can just straight pay for services. Like break a leg and cut the hospital a check for $28k or whatever it costs.


Make no mistake , Republicans are against ALL of the options above except for #1, #4, and #5.

#1: because they are flag fuckers - but when push comes to shove they'd want to discharge the most injured/costly troops.

#4:They see personal profits from running these companies - and gaming the system.

#5: The option they want available to the rich and the impoverished alike.

Ryan's plan is pushing #5 the most - making #4 the only other option to most and then making sure over a short period of time more people slip into #5.



Edit: Yes - it's way more complex then whats up here - and I didn't list Medicare, Disability, high risk pools for states, Indian health care, Medicare Advantage (which is Medicare with profits going to insurance companies) etc. They fall into the main 5 I listed in some ways - and some have crossover. But my general point stands.

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funny thing is, most doctors say that insurance is the reason costs
Mar 15th 2017
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Actually, it's the other way around
Mar 15th 2017
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liability insurance is also so high because doctors/nurses make mistakes
Mar 15th 2017
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It does reduce price sensitivity
Mar 15th 2017
3
      Opaque pricing and time sensitivity of care makes fee for service imprac...
Mar 15th 2017
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      i have a PPO that has very little cost sharing
Mar 15th 2017
7
           WTF?
Mar 15th 2017
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           you doin the most. i was talking about price sensitivity.
Mar 15th 2017
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                quote
Mar 15th 2017
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                     you reject cost sharing?
Mar 15th 2017
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                          YES - in most cases
Mar 15th 2017
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                               That's what makes this whole thing complicated...
Mar 15th 2017
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                                    that's the problem right there though
Mar 15th 2017
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                                    Well then improve the resouces
Mar 15th 2017
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           Funny, I have the same thought.
Mar 15th 2017
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                How much did you pay to the insurance company?
Mar 15th 2017
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All fall within either 1 or 4 in the end...this just describes who
Mar 15th 2017
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yep, definitely greed
Mar 15th 2017
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      it's how i learned Ben Carson wasn't shit a long time ago
Mar 15th 2017
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           He's a true American hero!
Mar 15th 2017
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