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Exclusive: Nate Parker’s Former Classmates, Penn State Alumni Speak Out in Support
In a statement of support shared exclusively with The Root, four people who were at Penn State University around the time of the rape allegations express sympathy for the accuser while remaining adamant in their belief that Parker is innocent.

The Root Staff
BY: THE ROOT STAFF
Posted: August 25, 2016

Four Penn State University alumni have come out in support of embattled actor Nate Parker and writer Jean McGianni Celestin, releasing a statement exclusively to The Root late Wednesday night.

In the letter, Penn State alums LaKeisha Wolf, Assata Richards, Lurie Daniel Favors and Brian Favors all state their belief in the innocence of Parker and Celestin regarding the 17-year-old rape charges, and outline 10 points they say are missing from the dialogue around the allegations.

“We are both dismayed and disappointed at the gross and blatant misinformation campaign regarding the events that took place during that time period,” the statement reads. “We feel compelled to speak truth to this situation as the media has cherry-picked the most salacious elements while ignoring the actual record.”

The foursome, who state they were students, staff and alumni during the trial, later add: “We believed some 17 years ago that Jean Celestin and Nate Parker were innocent of rape and we believe that now.”

Parker has been embroiled in controversy of late since stories by Deadline and Variety began circulating about the sexual assault accusations, coinciding with buzz around his film, The Birth of a Nation—a story about Nat Turner’s slave rebellion.

In the statement, the four say they were there for the trial and that many details are being overlooked. They point out the accuser’s race as a factor, as well as the heated racial climate on the campus at the time of the trial. The four also say allegations of harassment made by the woman who accused Parker and Celestin of rape (and later committed suicide in 2012) are untrue despite the fact that the university eventually settled with the woman for $17,500 over the claims.

“Neither Mr. Parker nor Mr. Celestin were named in the civil lawsuit, neither Mr. Parker nor Mr. Celestin were ever interviewed or contacted about that civil suit—nor were they able to defend themselves in that suit and were not aware of its existence until it was settled,” the statement reads.

The four also point out that during the trial it was revealed that the accuser had a history of depression unrelated to the assault charges and that one witness for the prosecution actually changed his testimony, although in the statement, they don’t go into detail over which exact testimony this pertains to.

The four write that they were “deeply disappointed” in Parker and Celestin’s choices back then, but that they stand behind the longtime friends and collaborators, saying they are innocent of rape. The four also say “they hope to encourage our community to embrace as vibrant of a discussion about misogyny, misogynoir and toxic masculinity, as we do about racism and white supremacy.”

The four are joined by the Rev. Al Sharpton and actor-activist Harry Belafonte as those who’ve come out in support of Parker and Celestin in recent days.

Read their full statement below:

Who We Are and Why We’re Making This Statement

We are members of the Penn State community who were present during the time when Nate Parker and Jean McGianni Celestin were accused and charged with the rape of a fellow Penn State student. We were present during the entire trial and ultimate exoneration of both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin. At the time, we were college students, staff and alumni who were deeply involved with countering the violently hostile racial climate that thrived in the Penn State community . Today, we are educators, lawyers, professors, academics and entrepreneurs who are actively engaged in community development and advancing social justice. Since our time at Penn State we have dedicated our lives to doing the healing and restorative work for our community and will continue to do so.

We have received several requests for comment on this matter by a wide array of parties and media outlets seeking additional information from people who witnessed the trial and were present during the time leading up to and after the trial. While we have refrained from making public statements, in light of recent media reports, we feel compelled to release this statement. To be clear: We are both dismayed and disappointed at the gross and blatant misinformation campaign regarding the events that took place during that time period. We feel compelled to speak truth to this situation as the media has cherry-picked the most salacious elements while ignoring the actual record.

Our goal in speaking out is to provide accurate information about what really took place during that time. We also hope to encourage our community to embrace as vibrant of a discussion about misogyny, misogynoir and toxic masculinity, as we do about racism and white supremacy.

It is important to note that as a group of people deeply involved in this case, we were saddened to learn of the death of the young woman involved from news reports last week. Even as we make this statement, we are deeply respectful of the pain and loss of her family and friends. We do not and cannot ignore the deep pain that this case, and so many like it, brings to everyone involved.

We believed some 17 years ago that Jean Celestin and Nate Parker were innocent of rape and we believe that now. This belief was supported by the evidence that eventually fully cleared both Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker. Evidence that many media outlets have chosen to ignore, overlook or mischaracterize today.

Our belief in and support of Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker was validated when we witnessed how racially biased the investigators were throughout the years leading up to the trial. This investigation took place during a time period of intense racial hostilities both on and off campus (which you can read more about in depth here ).

The trial was one of the longest non-murder trials in the history of the area. Here are a few key points related to the investigation and the trial:

1. The woman making the claim was a white college student and the criminal trial was decided by 11 white jurors and one black woman in Centre County, Pa. Nate Parker was fully acquitted at trial and Jean Celestin was wrongly convicted on one charge which he later successfully appealed.

2. Despite what’s been widely reported, Jean Celestin ultimately served nearly two years in prison while he fought to clear his name. His conviction was later reversed by the Pennsylvania Superior Court of Appeals and he was fully exonerated. The court that reversed Jean Celestin’s conviction overturned less than 15 percent of all the convictions appealed in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania that year.

3. Witnesses were threatened by the investigators who were trying to build a case against Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin. As a result of those threats, some witnesses (including one of the undersigned) had to seek legal protection from the very investigators charged with finding the facts.

4. A key prosecution eyewitness changed his statement several times after being threatened and coerced by police investigators.

5. The allegations of torture, stalking and intimidation of the woman involved in the case are absolutely untrue. Neither Mr. Parker, Mr. Celestin, nor any members acting on behalf of the Black Caucus ever stalked or harassed the young woman. As a routine part of the university and police investigation into this matter, both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin had bail orders that barred them both from certain parts of campus and from approaching the young woman involved. Had those orders been violated, both would have been arrested before their criminal trial. Neither the Black Caucus leadership, nor the group’s academic adviser was ever contacted about any supposed harassment of the young woman by black student members.

6. From the date of their arrest until after their trial, both Mr. Parker and Mr. Celestin were under strict bail conditions to have absolutely no contact with the young woman. Had they violated that order, their bail would have been revoked. Claims of harassment were used to support a civil suit filed against Penn State University for payment after the criminal case. Neither Mr. Parker nor Mr. Celestin were named in the civil lawsuit, neither Mr. Parker nor Mr. Celestin were ever interviewed or contacted about that civil suit—nor were they able to defend themselves in that suit and were not aware of its existence until it was settled.

7. Contrary to repeated inaccurate media reports, there is nothing to suggest that the ruling had anything to do with prior intimate contact with the young woman involved. The jury made no mention of this when they rendered their verdict. The jury’s decision was based on prosecution and defense witnesses and evidence in the court record that indicated that the young woman was both conscious and engaged during the evening in question.

8. Misinformation suggests that a spiral into depression was triggered by the alleged incident in 1999. However, court records and testimony by medical professionals revealed a history of chronic depression that dated back to childhood and the use of antidepressant medication that preceded this event.

9. Publications and the public have relied heavily on partial excerpts of one recorded phone call. There were multiple recorded transcripts calls. These multiple calls, in their entirety, were played in court for the jury to consider and to provide proper context to the narrative.

10. Celestin and Mr. Parker have always maintained that what happened that evening was consensual and never hid from the complexities of this even when they were facing more than 20 years in prison. Mr. Parker has spoken about this case dating as far back as 2008. Mr. Celestin wrote a memoir about his experience after he was exonerated which he plans to publish. He has spoken about his experience in the community for more than 10 years.

Copies of the relevant court documents that support the claims contained in this letter are located at factchecktoday.

It is unfortunate but still necessary to state that some of us are women who have survived sexual violence. We know that rape and sexual violence are rampant throughout our society. We also know that our society does not typically engage in discussions around this topic in ways that challenge notions of toxic masculinity. We know that most rape survivors never come forward because of how rape culture can prevent us from receiving justice.

Also, some of us also have family members who were wrongfully convicted of crimes they did not commit—including those who were falsely accused and convicted of rape charges. Family members who spent decades in prison before being released. We recognize that racism and white supremacy have historically combined around notions of sexuality and at times have created climates where lynch mob mentalities resulted in the destruction of entire black communities and black lives. Many of us viewed this incident involving Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker as yet another example of the blatant racism and violent hostility faced by black students on Penn State’s campus. We ask that you read more about that time period here to better understand the racial terror we faced.

Our belief in Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker’s innocence was validated as we sat through the court trial, heard all of the evidence and witnessed a justice system that was trying its best to lock both men up for as long as possible. But that system couldn’t bury them completely. The facts that spoke to their innocence, and the community that was unwilling to allow two additional young black men to be wrongfully convicted of something they did not do, would not allow it.

While we were deeply disappointed with the personal choices in this matter, we stood with and supported Mr. Celestin and Mr. Parker then because we believed they were innocent of the crimes of which they were charged. Our disappointment also stems from our belief that far too many young men participate in patriarchal, misogynistic structures without consideration of the long-term implications. We acknowledge that we can be disappointed and desire that they had not been in that room, while recognizing that they should not have been jailed for something that they were not guilty of. The facts of their story (in their totality —not the snippets referenced by media outlets) made sense. We made the choice to stand up and speak out against injustice some 17 years ago, and despite those who may attempt to attack or discredit us again from near and far, we are choosing to make the same choice today.

Nate Parker and Jean Celestin have never shied away from this incident and have always taken accountability—we, members of their village, required them to take responsibility. And, they have owned this incident in their personal lives and have used this moment to empower themselves to be change agents in their communities ever since. Indeed, both of them have frequently spoken about this period in their lives in an attempt to influence others in our community to make better choices and to build healthier communities.

This story is Nate and Jean’s testimony—one of growth and maturation. Though this story is a challenging one, we refused to leave them behind almost two decades ago or be silent now because we are committed to creating true justice. Indeed, we are talking about this moment in their lives precisely because this situation was not the end of their story. Now more than ever, our village will not allow their critically important and timely contributions to be derailed by a campaign of untruths or distorted perceptions. It is our hope and prayer that the outpouring of emotion and discussion that this topic has generated can ignite a process toward healing in our families and communities—a process that is so desperately needed if we are going to bring about true social change.

Sincerely,

LaKeisha Wolf, Artist & Entrepreneur, PSU Alumni
Dr. Assata Richards, PSU Alumni
Lurie Daniel Favors, Esq., PSU Alumni
Brian Favors, Education Consultant, M.Ed.; M.S.Ed, PSU Alumni

________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
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Nate Parker Is Disappointed In You Negros [View all] , Big Kuntry, Tue Aug-23-16 07:26 PM
 
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Why all of a sudden is his old case being brought up?
Aug 23rd 2016
1
because he's making moves. that's how these things work now.
Aug 23rd 2016
2
because the illuminati
Aug 23rd 2016
3
i had thought HE brought it up in some interviews.
Aug 24th 2016
7
In addition to what everyone else said
Aug 25th 2016
146
Nat Turner! Nate Parker was about to become a Threat!
Aug 23rd 2016
4
He will have to learn to live with the disappointment
Aug 24th 2016
5
these posters are all over W. Hollywood
Aug 24th 2016
6
Someone in Hollywood is really mad about the success of his movie
Aug 24th 2016
8
Who would be mad about making money?
Aug 24th 2016
9
Making money about Nat Turner may not be the issue or
Aug 24th 2016
12
Woody Allen didn't do what you think he did...
Oct 04th 2016
270
nah, this is by a right wing artist named Sabo
Aug 24th 2016
13
      Yeah, that images with a flag for a noose
Aug 24th 2016
14
           Its a tough one to defend without sounding like you condone rape
Aug 24th 2016
16
                But did he rape the woman? Or was it an allegation?
Aug 24th 2016
19
                     I wasnt there.... i dont know
Aug 24th 2016
22
                          Nah, he needs to go to 60 Min or Oprah and clear his name ASAP
Aug 24th 2016
24
                               its too late, his name was in the same sentence with rape...
Aug 24th 2016
27
                                    So, why do you think this is happening now? Is it the film?
Aug 24th 2016
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                                    its definitely the film. He may have tried to get out in front of it
Aug 24th 2016
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                                         Yeah. It's sad how white heroes are the only accepted hero in Hollywood....
Aug 24th 2016
54
                                    pretty much, all he can do is express sorrow for the woman,
Aug 24th 2016
31
                                         Well that seem to be the reality of it all for now. Dang Shame
Aug 24th 2016
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RE: these posters are all over W. Hollywood
Aug 24th 2016
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He was trying to buy OWN
Aug 24th 2016
10
lolol
Aug 24th 2016
11
Bruh! LOL
Aug 24th 2016
15
Nah, just making a movie about a rebellious slave who kilt wypipo
Aug 24th 2016
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      basically
Aug 24th 2016
23
Like alot of Skeleton In The Closet situations, he'd convinced
Aug 24th 2016
18
So did dude actually rape someone? I'm just asking
Aug 24th 2016
20
      I'll be honest, I skimmed the documents, but many people people who
Aug 24th 2016
21
           my opinion at this point is that he didn't rape her, but he facilitated
Aug 24th 2016
25
           Didn't Tupac almost get charged with something similar for
Aug 24th 2016
28
           Man Rape can be a tricky situation if it's an afterthought for the woman
Aug 24th 2016
26
                There are also a lot of cases where a dude rapes a woman
Aug 24th 2016
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                Yeah we know this.
Aug 24th 2016
40
                     we know what you posted as well.
Aug 24th 2016
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                i was never down with trains in college
Aug 24th 2016
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                     yeah, never got the appeal...or sloppy drunk girls either.
Aug 24th 2016
33
                     I've always been selfish. I was never about to share a female
Aug 24th 2016
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                     Yeah. Plus half the fun of getting ass at that age was bragging
Aug 24th 2016
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                     LOL
Aug 24th 2016
67
                     ^^^ A train isn't the same as a three(four, five)some
Aug 24th 2016
70
                          Sure ain't
Aug 25th 2016
166
He needed a PR firm. He did it to himself by playing checkers not chess
Aug 24th 2016
34
burying this until after the movie was released and successful is the on...
Aug 24th 2016
36
White people were never gonna love him imho, he lost black people
Aug 24th 2016
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      he has a white wife tho...
Aug 24th 2016
47
           I even got that covered. Reggie PR firm to the rescue
Aug 24th 2016
49
                RE: I even got that covered. Reggie PR firm to the rescue
Aug 24th 2016
91
In a certain way, a conviction would have been "better" for him.
Aug 24th 2016
37
he needs industry folks to publicly back him.
Aug 24th 2016
38
He clearly is not in the know of the black man hating
Aug 24th 2016
43
O_O
Oct 04th 2016
293
Could he just go on Oprah and call it a day?
Aug 24th 2016
44
His team is probably considering that. But again, he's not going to
Aug 24th 2016
45
Naw, we (the Black Woman Delegation) don't want him to admit
Aug 24th 2016
66
So you want him to acknowledge that he didn't have consent, even
Aug 24th 2016
83
      For me personally? I don't want anything
Aug 24th 2016
106
Fuck that. If he believes he didn't do it he should not have to say he ...
Aug 24th 2016
109
He should do a lie detector test on maury
Aug 24th 2016
46
Is Oprah influental now that she is on OWN?
Aug 24th 2016
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      the audience is smaller
Aug 24th 2016
           i'm not her target demo but I haven't heard her opinion
Aug 24th 2016
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                You'd be surprised about being her target audience.
Aug 24th 2016
61
the comments in the article :(
Aug 24th 2016
51
That's the thing, how do you apologize after an acquittal?
Aug 24th 2016
52
Damn
Aug 24th 2016
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he apologized for doing things he's not morally proud of today.
Aug 24th 2016
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Nah, you can work it. The english language is a beautiful thing
Aug 24th 2016
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      this is pretty much what he said, the 2nd time around
Aug 24th 2016
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      Unfortunately you only get a first time for these apologies...
Aug 24th 2016
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           def true.
Aug 24th 2016
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      I doubt that would go over. People want something along the lines
Aug 24th 2016
80
      The whole "I didn't realize women were people until I had daughters..."
Aug 24th 2016
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bruh, there is NO WAY to give the correct apology
Aug 24th 2016
58
AFI Cancels Birth of a Nation Screening, Nate Parker Q&A
Aug 24th 2016
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This is some Bull
Aug 24th 2016
55
fuct
Aug 24th 2016
59
damn they bout to kill this flick.
Aug 24th 2016
60
Fellas: You are who you associate with.
Aug 24th 2016
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i agree with everything except this
Aug 24th 2016
65
It's as "alleged" as her consent was. NM
Aug 24th 2016
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      right, so we don't really know if he raped her or if he harassed her
Aug 24th 2016
69
           Eh, the rape acquittal was based on previous sexual contact
Aug 24th 2016
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                I'm not saying he didn't rape her either. He said she was a willing
Aug 24th 2016
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                     Reread ur first sentence and reread it again
Aug 24th 2016
132
                          You don't understand what I said.
Aug 25th 2016
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while I agree he coulda put some distance between the friendship
Aug 24th 2016
71
I agree but...
Aug 24th 2016
73
Drastic possibility: What if he announces that he will donate 100%
Aug 24th 2016
77
      no bc what happens the next time he produces a movie?
Aug 24th 2016
81
      i honestly think the only thing that will save him is if the film is gre...
Aug 24th 2016
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           this is true
Aug 24th 2016
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           True. Step In The Name Of Love made everybody grudgingly move on
Aug 24th 2016
87
Like I said earlier, if he had been convicted and did some time, even
Aug 24th 2016
74
Nah. Hell, Parker is, legally, not guilty
Aug 24th 2016
76
this is false and dumb.
Aug 24th 2016
82
      nah, he has a point... where are the photos of Celestine?
Aug 24th 2016
90
           There are photos of him in The Daily Beast piece/ He served time
Aug 24th 2016
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           yes, Nate is being punished for the acquittal after a fair trial.
Aug 24th 2016
96
           they care about him as it relates to Parker
Aug 24th 2016
97
                yeah, I think that was his point
Aug 24th 2016
113
                ...so, you agree, then?
Aug 24th 2016
118
                     That was the op's point
Aug 24th 2016
127
eh.
Aug 24th 2016
92
      Ok.
Aug 24th 2016
103
           John 15:13
Aug 24th 2016
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                Proverbs 13:20
Aug 24th 2016
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                     John 13:34
Aug 24th 2016
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                          I hold my loved ones accountable for
Aug 24th 2016
123
                               I hear you. Lol
Aug 24th 2016
124
RE: Nate Parker Is Disappointed In You Negros
Aug 24th 2016
88
I take back my earlier rant....
Aug 24th 2016
93
this is not true.
Aug 24th 2016
99
Woody Allen does not catch hell
Aug 24th 2016
121
well that was quick
Aug 24th 2016
107
      I'm crying! 11 minutes lol
Aug 24th 2016
108
           I'm waiting for her to shit on Nate again
Aug 24th 2016
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           shit lol
Aug 24th 2016
119
I ain't been keepin up with the whole rape thing....i been over-
Aug 24th 2016
98
*pats head*
Aug 24th 2016
100
She claims she was passed out, he claims she was wide awake
Aug 24th 2016
101
oh so they ran a darkroom on her.... and his man's got caught ..
Aug 24th 2016
102
they raped a white girl and got away with it.
Aug 24th 2016
104
Its not he said she said. Nate roommate testified he was invited & decli...
Aug 24th 2016
130
      where did you get this from?
Aug 25th 2016
141
           The third party; his testimony came into question. He also said opposite
Aug 25th 2016
142
           that's not the dude she was talking about..he wasn't invited in
Aug 25th 2016
144
           deadline story and trial transcript of Tamerlane Kanga
Aug 25th 2016
163
                To me, the first part about 4 people at one time isn't really relevant.
Aug 25th 2016
164
                oh ok...the daily beast article wrote about his testimony differently
Aug 25th 2016
174
                     Yes...and he was never under threat of prosecution...
Aug 25th 2016
197
                          Wait, this guy clearly says it wasn't rape in his testimony.
Aug 29th 2016
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                               RE: Wait, this guy clearly says it wasn't rape in his testimony.
Oct 03rd 2016
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                                    Yeah you didn't read his whole testimony.
Oct 04th 2016
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^^ when she didnt know it was happening?
Aug 24th 2016
125
      ^^ It's really that simple nm
Aug 24th 2016
126
So are ya'll still going to see the movie or not?
Aug 24th 2016
110
Hell yeah... with my chest puffed out and head held high
Aug 24th 2016
114
maybe.
Aug 24th 2016
117
I'm supporting it, this movie is too important.
Aug 24th 2016
120
Yup ^^^^^
Aug 24th 2016
122
Opening Weekend
Aug 24th 2016
129
nah, I'm gonna wait for the Roots Prequel that's coming in 2017
Aug 25th 2016
134
Yes
Aug 26th 2016
215
I'm not going to see it
Aug 28th 2016
223
For the record....AFI, like Variety, is full of shit.
Aug 24th 2016
128
There's no conspiracy, this is just horrible timing culturally
Aug 24th 2016
131
I think it's def a conspiracy linked to the movie
Aug 25th 2016
139
      that's what i was trying to figure out
Aug 25th 2016
140
      I can't see why he would bring it up unless he knew
Aug 25th 2016
147
           Reports said that Fox was tryna get in front of it before Oscar season
Aug 25th 2016
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                yeah... had to be a reason they spoke on it
Aug 25th 2016
149
                     yeah, clearly they miscalculated
Aug 25th 2016
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                          I find it hard to believe this man is shocked at the reaction
Aug 25th 2016
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                               He's probably spent his whole life since then trying to get right in his
Aug 25th 2016
157
                               I'm telling you its the Celestin part coupled with her suicide.
Aug 25th 2016
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                                    of course all the facts hurt his case
Aug 25th 2016
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                                         yeah but at least this way he can play the i was totally exonerated
Aug 25th 2016
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      It's first movie he's directed and his most prominent project to date
Aug 25th 2016
205
Let me be really serious...
Aug 24th 2016
133
Have you paid for X-Men, X-Men 2, Superman Returns, Valkyrie,...
Aug 25th 2016
135
RE: Have you paid for X-Men, X-Men 2, Superman Returns, Valkyrie,...
Aug 25th 2016
136
      white america thanks you
Aug 25th 2016
138
      white america controls and financially benefits off him is more accurate
Aug 25th 2016
152
           true, but there is a segment of white america that doesnt want him to wi...
Aug 25th 2016
156
      lol.. the "not since I found out" part is critical
Aug 25th 2016
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           yup. its a shame we are falling for it and wont see this movie in theatr...
Aug 25th 2016
154
You are killing me this flip flopping lol
Aug 25th 2016
170
      I would hate to be behind her at the ticket booth
Aug 25th 2016
173
           lol @ this...
Aug 25th 2016
181
Out of curiosity
Aug 25th 2016
143
Harry Belafonte On Nate Parker
Aug 25th 2016
145
he's right...
Aug 25th 2016
153
She wasn't lying though
Aug 25th 2016
168
      its damn near a requirement in Hollywood
Aug 25th 2016
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           Pssst. Nobody gives a fuck about that shit.
Aug 25th 2016
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                no one cares except twitter
Aug 25th 2016
179
                     Right. So, Hollywood from fucking 50 years ago.
Aug 26th 2016
211
Harry definitely has a point too. Yesha Callahan is the worst.
Aug 25th 2016
162
Seriously though, I feel sorry for the costars the most especially...
Aug 25th 2016
159
yup
Aug 25th 2016
160
At least Colman Domingo is getting that AMC money right now.
Aug 25th 2016
161
They're trying to turn Nate Parker into OJ. This is disgusting.
Aug 25th 2016
167
Turner's Story Too Important To Be Lost In Parker's Past (LINK)
Aug 25th 2016
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smh at all negroes who use his rape allegation as a reason to not see th...
Aug 25th 2016
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      people need to READ.
Aug 25th 2016
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           Like people READ the bible but still hang white jesus on the wall?
Aug 25th 2016
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           most of those books are printed by WHITE AMERICA!!!
Aug 25th 2016
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                I'm not burying him my dude.
Aug 25th 2016
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                     yup, i feel you
Aug 25th 2016
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5-8 are huge.
Aug 25th 2016
185
Indeed. So she was never harassed on their behalf?
Aug 25th 2016
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RE: Indeed. So she was never harassed on their behalf?
Aug 25th 2016
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      At first Parker didn't admit there was a second person (link and image)
Aug 25th 2016
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for me it's #2. especially in central PA
Aug 25th 2016
188
idk anything about central PA but i assumed most cases that get
Aug 25th 2016
189
      Central PA is Alabama/Mississippi North PA has 3rd highest rate
Aug 25th 2016
196
      PA is Pittsburgh and Philly with Alabama in the middle
Aug 25th 2016
206
After re-reading The Daily Beast piece, my ??s about 5-8
Aug 25th 2016
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      re 7
Aug 25th 2016
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      Are you on a mission to prove the Parker is Guilty?
Aug 25th 2016
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      smh are you on a mission to prove he's not?
Aug 25th 2016
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      Why? SMH. I'm just asking the question.
Aug 25th 2016
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      *sigh* Do you REALLY want to know what I think?
Aug 25th 2016
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           you handled that very well
Aug 25th 2016
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           Thanks. The ashies will still take issue though. Hit dogs all day. nm
Aug 25th 2016
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           like women don't categorize men also, lol
Aug 25th 2016
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           We don't categorize them based on their ability to be victims of abuse
Aug 25th 2016
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                Nate Parker didn't categorize them that way either, those are your...
Aug 26th 2016
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                     she said it came from a recorded interrogation
Aug 26th 2016
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                          Thank you.Just read the Daily Beast piece
Aug 26th 2016
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                          Nate Parker NEVER said anything about categorizing women...
Aug 26th 2016
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           I do.. I really respect you opinion. I just wanted to know why you
Aug 25th 2016
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           A-HA! It's based on the facts of the case, Rev'd.
Aug 25th 2016
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                Rape allegation is a touchy matter depending on the vantage point.
Aug 25th 2016
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                     Go see the movie and support Parker if you want
Aug 26th 2016
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                          No need to try to slight me on the sneak
Aug 26th 2016
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                               You attempted to slight me first
Aug 26th 2016
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                                    Honestly, I didn't. I think you just took it that way
Aug 26th 2016
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           damn...props
Aug 25th 2016
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      Re: 5. Yes there were claims that nate directly harassed her.
Aug 26th 2016
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GIVE US FREE AND TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOR NATE!
Aug 25th 2016
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what you do/did in the dark will come in the light in this day and age
Aug 26th 2016
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yeah. its just bad timing
Aug 26th 2016
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She was never unconscious
Aug 29th 2016
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Well that's interesting.
Aug 29th 2016
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Then why was Celestin initially convicted?
Aug 29th 2016
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IMHOP, because two black guys had sex with a white girl.
Aug 29th 2016
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      ^^^^^
Aug 29th 2016
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To be fair this relates to an appeal but some key findings are re-stated...
Aug 29th 2016
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Twitter nikkas awfully quiet.
Oct 03rd 2016
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I think Slut Shaming played a role in all of this
Aug 29th 2016
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If the court really find she was conscious, then NP's team handled last
Aug 29th 2016
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      1. He was always going to have a bad week once word got out
Aug 29th 2016
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      It was Fox who decided it was best to resurface the case info
Aug 29th 2016
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      the court found through testimony
Aug 29th 2016
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NATE PARKERS EBONY INTERVIEW
Aug 29th 2016
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i want to root for him.
Aug 29th 2016
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There is some interesting stuff in here about getting a girl to the Yes....
Aug 29th 2016
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      The current move overall is towards Affirmative Consent and away
Aug 29th 2016
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           Affirmative Consent doesn't really address what I am raising.
Aug 29th 2016
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                The point was, these kids aren't as consumed with sex as we were.
Aug 29th 2016
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                     nah.. I think this is wrong
Aug 29th 2016
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Nate Parker is not handling this well. at all. (links/swipe)
Oct 03rd 2016
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Why hasn't the studio hired a PR person for his dumb ass
Oct 03rd 2016
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he needs a handler.
Oct 03rd 2016
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Gabby ain't stupid.
Oct 03rd 2016
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      Gabrielle has already jumped out there defending Nate.
Oct 03rd 2016
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           Disclaimer: I skimmed.
Oct 03rd 2016
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                RE: Disclaimer: I skimmed.
Oct 03rd 2016
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                Right - she walks the line.
Oct 04th 2016
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If homey feels strongly that he was falsely accused, why would he
Oct 03rd 2016
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ask Kobe:
Oct 03rd 2016
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You mean the apology he HAD to do as part of his million dollar settleme...
Oct 03rd 2016
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      I mean the one I posted.
Oct 03rd 2016
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           *hearts for eyes*
Oct 03rd 2016
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Mistake #1: talking about it. Ever.
Oct 03rd 2016
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      Ask Kobe.
Oct 03rd 2016
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      Ohh you talking PR, I'm talking moral responsibility.
Oct 03rd 2016
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           you and Nate are making the same mistake.
Oct 04th 2016
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                So to sell a movie about a black man who didn't cower to the white
Oct 04th 2016
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                     Naw.
Oct 04th 2016
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                          Your hypothetical is silly. People ACTUALLY did look at the evidence
Oct 04th 2016
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                               those ppl were constrained by the law
Oct 04th 2016
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                                    When it comes to a black man being tried for raping a white woman,
Oct 04th 2016
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                                         good for you.
Oct 04th 2016
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                                              isnt that great for him and zimmerman?
Oct 04th 2016
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      Nate wants it both ways.
Oct 03rd 2016
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      chill out clampett. INNOCENT
Oct 03rd 2016
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The studio is equally dumb.
Oct 03rd 2016
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      yep.
Oct 03rd 2016
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      I don't agree.
Oct 03rd 2016
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           That's where the press release comes in.
Oct 03rd 2016
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                Yeah.
Oct 03rd 2016
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                     yep
Oct 04th 2016
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                          If his initial statement is sufficiently contrite
Oct 04th 2016
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                               yep
Oct 04th 2016
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                               Yeah, the contrition would absolutely be key.
Oct 04th 2016
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Apologizing for something you didnt do is dumb
Oct 03rd 2016
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Right, and people are being disingenuous with the redemption angle.
Oct 04th 2016
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      shit was disgusting
Oct 04th 2016
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      ^^^^^
Oct 04th 2016
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back slid like a mug
Oct 04th 2016
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...
Oct 04th 2016
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That interview is linked in the post you're replying to. n/m
Oct 04th 2016
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      Ah, thanks ;-)
Oct 04th 2016
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no amount of media training would ever get me to apologize
Oct 04th 2016
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      i might apologize to $ave the movie
Oct 04th 2016
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           This is likely why Turner's story resonated with Parker so much...
Oct 04th 2016
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                After watching the interview w/ Ebro, I was right. He addressed this
Oct 05th 2016
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...and the movie may be kinda 'eh' anyway. (link/partial swipe)
Oct 04th 2016
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welp pt2
Oct 04th 2016
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Shit.
Oct 04th 2016
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Cuh bout to be on some, ''what allegations?'' USA Today Review...
Oct 04th 2016
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I cant wait to see this...
Oct 04th 2016
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Support Birth Of A Nation Or Not, But Just Know That Nate Parker Is Prob...
Oct 04th 2016
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Yup. Its to the point where even if innocent 2016 Nate is a dickhead
Oct 04th 2016
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honest question...
Oct 04th 2016
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      'i apologize for my actions'
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      He can't say that because that's not his truth.
Oct 04th 2016
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           awesome.
Oct 05th 2016
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      That was the original statement I spoke about
Oct 04th 2016
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           this is where i get lost
Oct 04th 2016
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                They want to see him break
Oct 04th 2016
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                frankly i dont understand yall getting lost about this
Oct 04th 2016
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                Yeah you are wrong on both accounts.
Oct 04th 2016
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                     They're talking like Nate Parker was famous at Penn State
Oct 04th 2016
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                     you idiot
Oct 05th 2016
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                          lol
Oct 05th 2016
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                     Nah
Oct 05th 2016
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                It's the inability to stay on message
Oct 05th 2016
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                     he's a complete tool.
Oct 05th 2016
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                     besides saying no comment there is no way to win people over
Oct 05th 2016
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                     I agree to a certain extent
Oct 05th 2016
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                     Yeah but it's a lot to say she killed herself because of him.
Oct 05th 2016
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                     thanks for clarifying
Oct 05th 2016
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i dig VSB too.
Oct 04th 2016
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nate on ebro in the morning
Oct 04th 2016
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This is a damn good interview
Oct 05th 2016
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      ebro was obviously impressed wit the movie
Oct 05th 2016
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i was going to see it when niggas circle jerked off it in january
Oct 04th 2016
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+1
Oct 04th 2016
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Same
Oct 04th 2016
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Middling reviews are the final nail in the coffin for me.
Oct 05th 2016
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      lol
Oct 05th 2016
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      Yeah, I don't care about that either. I'm there. Front & center.
Oct 05th 2016
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      shoot peele might have pulled off a better film
Oct 05th 2016
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Welp, reviews are in and people think the movies trash.
Oct 05th 2016
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Pretty solid on RT & Metacritic
Oct 05th 2016
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Variety 80, Rolling Stone 88, Vuture 90
Oct 05th 2016
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I will review it with my own 2 eyes.
Oct 05th 2016
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Its reviews are overwhelmingly good-to-middling. Are you serious?
Oct 05th 2016
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      its very telling...
Oct 05th 2016
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      Nigga Nat Turner is from up the road from me. That dude's the Gawd.
Oct 05th 2016
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      Clearly you only read my post title and stop.
Oct 05th 2016
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The Birth of A Nation is an epic fail *swipe*
Oct 07th 2016
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lmao... they trying but it wont work. 10 PM showing. CANT WAIT!!!
Oct 07th 2016
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