>
>aka healing

Treatment and healing ain't hardly the same thing.

>prevention is necessary yes

Well, at least you got ^^this^^ right.

>its why i work in public health, but you also need treatment

With the exception of accidents, almost everything IS PREVENTABLE. Ain't no money in prevention in the US medical business structure, so prevention is always played down or just ignored.

some things you cant just prevent (e.g 15% of women will
>experience complications during pregnancy
>this is not predicted during the pregnancy, neither is it
>preventable.

I don't believe those statistics. Pregnancy complications occur far less than that.

> yes we can reduce certain risk factors
>(by providing medication eg to control hypertension etc)
>but when that moment comes and the woman needs emergency
>obstetric care?

Medicine to control hypertension? See, that's the problem. You will NEVER actually heal ANYONE OF ANYTHING if medication is your solution to disease and illness.

>better find a doctor, or a nurse midwife, and certain drugs,
>equipment and supplies... and quick
>and often you will need surgery.
>ive seen too many women die because of lack of health care
>healing herbs don't do shit.
>

Giving birth is as natural as taking a dump. Since when does medical intervention become a regular undertaking for something so natural? Since doctors see an economic opportunity is since when this natural process has been medicalized.

Often distress during the process can be relieved from knowledge of the birthing process and being connected to the emotions and mental state of the mother and knowing how to help her to relax. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING relaxing about a hospital environment, therefore, the mother/and child is most likely gonna experience some type of distress during the birthing process, which will give the savior doctors an excuse/justification to intervening and cutting on the woman or pulling out some of their other fancy (but often completely unnecessary) medical tricks.

As far as herbs are concerned, there are SEVERAL herbs that aid in the birthing process, by helping to relax the uterus and to help the woman's body naturally release the child(ren).



>
>in places with high prevalence of malaria? what works?
>prompt effective treatment to prevent the complications of
>malaria (and especially in children and pregnant women)
>treatment in essence also acts as a form of prevention

Knowing how to strengthen the immune system is the best weapon against any and all disease conditions; not western "treatments" or medicine.


>(in the HIV field, the one where treatment does not still
>exist, not dr sebis virtual reality, treatment is considered
>prevention)

I don't know if treatment exists (but should treatment be the goal?), but Sebi has been HEALING HIV/AIDS since 1987/88.

i've worked with people living with hiv/aids. Ive had to take
>care of people in the last stages of aids.
>if you think a few herbal remedies will 'cure' a condition
>like that, i dont know what to tell you

It ain't a matter of what I THINK; it's a matter of what is. There is no disease that the body can not over come. You believing the contrary shows how ignorant you are and exposes the true short coming of your training and education.

>i've also seen how effective HIV meds are... even when someone
>is diagnosed as having reached the stage of aids,
>the medication can act to reduce viral loads to unmeasureable
>levels.
>

Meds and effective in the same sentence is an oxymoronic statement. Usually, it's the (ultra toxic) medicine(s) that the patient has been on, that's accelerated their dire condition.

Remember the goal, SHOULD BE to heal the person, NOT to just make them comfortable.

>it seems like your focus is on prevention - simple things like
>water and sanitation
>while we cannot emphasize the importance of this enough
>it is not adequate
>when someone falls sick? better get them treatment and fast.
>not everything is water/sanitation
>

You're right,about water and sanitation, but that is at least half the problem. I.e., if you get that right, you're at least half way to your goal of solid health.

Proper nutrition, through fresh produce and clean air, also plays a very significant role. These are the elements needed to build up a healthy immune system, which is what protects one from disease and illness, NOT medicines and vaccinations.



>i worked through a cholera epidemic, and while yes we went
>around training health workers to prevent themselves from
>getting infection
>and ran a series of hand-washing, proper sanitation health
>education campaigns..
>you know what else we trained healthworkers on?
>proper rehydration, including administering IV fluids...
>because when someone gets to a certain level of dehydration,
>you better start an IV
>and administer zinc
>
>children with diarrhoea? guess what? oral rehydration +zinc is
>more effective.
>deworming? get some albendazole
>

Yes, rehydration in the case of extreme sickness and/or dehydration is critical. The best (natural) rehydration fluid on the planet is coconut water.


>but i know all this is propaganda to you
>so i will just leave you to it
>hopefully those around you know better than to encourage this
>line of thinking
>(including, it seems a lack of appreciation of education - i
>guess you must wish you could not read and write.
>im not sure if you have been in a place where the majority are
>not literate.
>while education is not the end/all be/all, it certainly
>improves one's quality of life
>far more than lack of
>

In America, education has been used as an effective weapon to aid in our (i.e., Black people) underdevelopment. You can educate people in an improper way and they can become no good to anyone.

Dr. Carter G. Woodson, spelled this out in very eloquent terms in his book, "The Miseducation of The Negro". We have often been the victims of miseducation, when attempting to go to school and get educated and that is a real crime. We come out with misguided vision and jacked up values, not knowing what's real and believing in fantasies/fallacies. Many of us today are victims of the spell of Miseducation.

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