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6. "to address *any* of this we have to be VERY aware of the history"
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of the black church as an institution. the black church's history is uniquely different from any other because our situation in america is unique.

discrimination and the after effects of slavery (<-- colorblind niggas is eyerolling right now but you can never get away from that as prologue to discussions of black american issues) created a situation in which there were very few avenues for black people to be in positions of leadership, or where education was valued.

in segregated economies, the educated black class ended up as, largely, teachers or preachers (in addition to the other professions which were located in the communities). i'd assume, due to segregation, that there wasn't too much white folks up in black churches seeing what was going on and what was being said. so this was a safe space where people could have dignity and community and heal as well as air grievance.

folks who may have been suited to be politicians or business leaders, in a world where those options were largely closed to them, became vocational preachers. i don't know the percentages, but in addition to folks who were 'called' to ministry, preaching was also a significant outlet for folks with a certain set of talents that they could not necessarily exercise on the daily as janitors and porters in the white man's world.

all of the above created a self-reinforcing environment which concentrated black leadership, politics, oration, economics, etc., in the black church. which, in turn, shaped the way that leadership, politics and economics was (and is, but to a lesser degree) done in the black community.

so black people didn't necessary choose this form of organization and leadership. partially we did, because spirituality and community are a big part of our shared culture. but it was also largely due to container theory -- this was the shape of the society in which we were confined so we grew and evolved to take this shape.

contrast this with, say, jews. THEY faced discrimination and barriers -- nowhere near the same level of dehumanization and cultural abnegation as black people in *this* country. but assimilation after a generation or two was still on the table for them, as it was with other white ethnic groups. they could get cultural and communal support and encouragement through their faith community prior to eventual economic advancement in ways that we could not. our best and brightest were steered toward being teachers and preachers. and we know what desegregation did to the black teacher class.

for a good 40 years, at least, i've seen critiques of the black church, etc, which don't take these things into account. but this is where the 'top down', authoritative, patriarchal structural relationship of the preacher class to the parishioners comes from.

so when someone runs for office, they get the local preacher(s) to put 'em on for a sunday and address the congregation from the pulpit. i don't think they understand why, but they are doing this because this is how it has historically been done.






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Preachers, the black community and politics [View all] , imcvspl, Wed Feb-24-16 10:36 PM
 
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It's all 'negro management' politics
Feb 25th 2016
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the end of that link though....
Feb 25th 2016
2
      Yeah I feel like it can shut the discourse down when the first reply is ...
Feb 25th 2016
3
I resent seeing politicians speak @ Black churches and get endorsements
Feb 25th 2016
4
Jesse Jackson should have officially been the last time...
Feb 25th 2016
13
i got no problem with the black church getting involved in politics
Feb 25th 2016
5
^^^excellent contextual breakdown
Feb 25th 2016
11
yup
Feb 26th 2016
14
Thinking about this, wondering how we move passed this dynamic.
Feb 26th 2016
16
Churches in general have gotten far away from the message of Christ
Feb 25th 2016
7
what would you say is the message of Christ? in a few words...
Feb 25th 2016
8
Care for the poor, care for children, care for the widowed and orphaned,
Feb 25th 2016
9
This isn't about Christ though n/m
Feb 25th 2016
12
      I guess my point is church leadership and politics don't mix
Feb 26th 2016
15
none should mix imho
Feb 25th 2016
10

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