43. "RE: "establishment-like&amp..." In response to In response to 41 Fri Feb-12-16 09:55 AM by murph71
>>>this administration is full-blown establishment >> > >you been quick to call Obama a centrist tho...
Remember....When we were talking about Bernie and Obama? We were talking about CAMPAIGNING....We were talking about how Obama worked the middle and made himself look like he wasn't the Liberal Loon candidate....We never talked about Obama's actual presidency....He RAN as a Centrist the first time around...Once he got in? He got pushed center left and at times further...
>>Maybe to the hardcore Left...But when other folk see the >>President getting attacked by Republicans for being an >>outright socialist who has given too much time to gay >rights, >>climate change, gun violence, etc, it's hard to envision >Obama >>being some light weight Progressive who sleeps in the >>middle.... Obama has even gotten shade from Purple State >>Democrats who believe he has taken the country too far >>left....lol
>so which is it? Is Obama progressive or nah? of course the GOP >would view him as such but Obama could have GOP talking points >and still get criticized by the Repubs because that's what >they do.
It's simple...Obama ran as a moderate Centrist to get them votes....He tried to do the moderate thing his first few years in office. But he recognized that after being called a socialist out to destroy the country just because he wanted to enact affordable healthcare that mirrors Republican Mitt Romney, that they are going to hate him anyway....So he pushed it further left after the Right overreached...Not "Bernie" left...But "Gay Marriage, gun-control, climate change" left....
>>So when folks hear Bernie's comments about Obama's >>administration, a lot of people take offense to that... > >lol, it's politics, fuckers are always offended >> >>Bernie calling Obama's administration the establishment is >not >>the issue...That's a normal statement. Bernie is a socialist >>democrat...He is def. waaaaaaaaay further to the left of >>Obama.... >> >>The issue is making Obama out to be a fake ass progressive >>just because u (Bernie) r holding down the FAR left wing of >>the party....It's kind of naive... > >funny how Obama is now a progresivewhen every other time you >are quick to point out how he is Reagan lite. I know the tide >has shifted but you keep flip flopping on who Obama is when it >comes to being progressive vs a centrist. > >you should be a politician bro...
Nah...Just detailing what happened....Obama is a shrewd politician. He knew he couldn't run as a Left leaning progressive. He played the middle...he even name checked Reagan....
But I think the Tea Party actually pushed Obama left in a lot of ways.......
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