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Yes, very much so. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 1
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Not to get all respectability politics |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 2
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But didn't most shake it off and are now 30+ wearing bow ties |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 6
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Why did they? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 7
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probably to get pussy |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 12
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lol |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 13
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Nate McCall wrote about this phenom in his second book |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 14
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I wanted JF to argue that it was due to influence from 'negative' entert... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 15
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'Make Me Wanna Holla' Nate Mccall? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 69
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I swear I didn't see young people smoking weed until the Chronic |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 9
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Teens were definitely smoking reefer when our parents were kids. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 11
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Of course, but I am talking about the backwaters of where I am from. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 22
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this is exactly how it went for me too. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 27
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Word. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 28
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future made some of the best love songs of the last 5 years |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 3
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Life has been imitating "art" far too frequently in the past 10 years...... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 4
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I don't think so. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 5
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Well folks have always been arguing that our music is a negative influen... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 8
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yes and I disagree with them |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 10
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The hegemony of *crossover* black culture is a big problem. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 16
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I used to argue vehemently against this |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 17
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Who says thugging and gooning aren't inherently suburban behaviors? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 18
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When I hear kids forcefully pronounce words to sound "hood" I laugh |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 71
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I think this is also a sign of us getting older. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 21
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yep this is old people speak |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 54
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we have this same argument every year or so... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 19
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we exalt the individual, over the communal. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 20
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One has to be naive as hell to think it doesn't |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 23
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ionno, im conflicted because i feel like regardless they stereotype us |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 36
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Oh trust me, I hear you on that and I see it happening as well |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 48
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100% |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 59
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not really but I HATE FUTURE |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 25
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wait, how did he use Yams? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 26
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that's a stretch |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 29
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is it? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 31
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you live by it you die by it... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 34
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I HATE that one of my favorite veggies has been co-opted |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 32
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there's no glorification. it's all pain and lashing out |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 38
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lol yeah? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 50
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you need to listen to it and process it more critically |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 53
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LOL |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 55
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im officially old... i have no idea wtf you are talking about. Yams? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 40
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Sits with you in the old people section |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 63
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I'm leaning out my chair with the screw face on tom'bout, "Hanh?!" |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 112
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Question to folks who think it doesn't or it's de minimis. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 30
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RE: Question to folks who think it doesn't or it's de minimis. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 39
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I don't think you are clear in response as to whether it's harmful |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 43
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I think you just misunderstand. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 44
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I don't think there is an question |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 33
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Yes, cause a lot of our youth don't know the history of our people in |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 35
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2 often blk people are judged based on the actions of the worst among us |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 37
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this^^^ |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 41
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This isn't about white people though, it's about if it has hurt *us* |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 49
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I remember it going from songs about love, fun, and perseverance |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 42
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cuz they made us hate ourselves and love their wealth... yeezy |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 45
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The cognitive dissonance required to be all #blacklivesmatter... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 46
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^ I hear this. Well said. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 113
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i dont know, but my new issue is using rap lyrics as trial evidence |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 47
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yup |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 101
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yes. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 51
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i dont think it changes how whites view us... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 52
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No....funny how sex drugs and rock n roll is cool and ok |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 56
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^^^Amen(c)Keith Richards |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 58
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you know? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 60
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You know already know the response, who cares what white ppl do? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 64
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there is absolutely nothin new with HUMAN behavior...so i dont know |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 75
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So we put forward the magical noble negro stereotype as if its better? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 57
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This is exactly how I think about Future's latest stuff. And why I love ... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 107
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If we let it... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 61
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A couple of ppl have said it but I don't know why the model negro |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 66
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i dunno that we were doing any better 20 or 30 yrs ago |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 67
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I dunno why folks are having this very binary view of this. It's not |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 72
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what's the solution? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 85
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You ever listened to old blues records? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 68
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he wonders if too much consumption of ratchetry |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 70
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I don't see that much more ratchetry... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 74
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Yeah Yeah Yeah we all know that rock and roll is slang for sex.... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 76
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We are examples that it doesn't. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 77
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There are songs that were that direct |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 78
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I am not proposing anything |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 84
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provide some examples. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 89
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So, what's the point of this post? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 104
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what's wrong that lyric? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 86
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he respects women too much to offer them extraordinarily hard sex. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 120
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I say the less educated & worldly you are, the more difficult it is to |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 81
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Hmm something doesn't feel right with the "it's okay for us, but not poo... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 87
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I realize it's a real dangerous position to take, but I have to |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 91
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the War on Drugs/Crack era prolly was a more significant influence |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 62
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assassination of black leaders had a larger toll |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 65
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no wonder Happy and Uptown Funk are hits |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 73
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i HATE it that when ever this discussion comes up... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 79
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Agreed, man. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 80
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I dont want to say dodge but the conversation seems to drop |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 82
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Thank you, this discussion has nothing to do with what whites think. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 83
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b/c complaining that the art sucks is...not worth talking about. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 88
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Yeah but that's totally not what this discussion is about...at all. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 92
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what is 'negative effect'? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 94
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RE: Do you think the negativity in Black Pop Culture hurt us? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 90
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I use the broad term to because I am curious if people think it's negati... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 93
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RE: I use the broad term to because I am curious if people think it's ne... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 96
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no it's about black ppl. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 97
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RE: no it's about black ppl. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 100
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Not just about behavior |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 103
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what is 'negativity in Black pop culture'? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 105
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alright I'll play along. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 108
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and what's your answer? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 109
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ioknow. why I asked. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 111
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isn't that why we need all of the art? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 110
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and how'd you get me and Kwesi confused?? |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 95
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about as much as i think the positivity in black pop culture has helped ... |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 98
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 117
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i'll say it: we need those "negative" images, just like everybody else. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 99
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agreed. |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 102
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Exacly, |
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Jul 23rd 2015 | 106
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I hear this too. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 114
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No one is doubting the artistic value of art with negative social values... |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 116
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art affects ppl. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 119
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It has nothing to do with liking it less. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 122
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uh huh. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 123
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Yep yep (c) Teddy |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 125
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The bullshit isn't in what you said but what you DIDN'T say... |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 118
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I said that. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 121
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As a side-bar to the pontificating |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 124
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RE: As a side-bar to the pontificating |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 126
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RE: As a side-bar to the pontificating |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 127
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the point is, it is for the LISTENER to decide what to make of art. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 128
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Because they claim to be serious... |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 129
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every country artist claims to grow up "south of Bakersfield." |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 130
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People do internalize art. |
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Jul 24th 2015 | 115
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