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35. "RE: We gotta stop looking at our entertainers like they're our intellect..."
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I agree.

Most celebrities, even musicians or actors who are known for their craft and skill, are generally only learned in their own arena.

It's nice and inspiring when a celebrity is grounded in the greater society enough to make a statement that inspires, but they aren't public intellectuals in the sense that a journalist or a politician or even an activist is.

Young people only look to artists or celebrities as role models, because celebrities are 'experts' to issues relating to young people - being socially acceptable, being able to take a strong and compelling stances for social progress.

But looking to Kendrick as some kind of urban philosopher to fix something as complex and complicated as normal self-love in the Black community and then damning him for it, is like looking for Marc Zuckerberg to fix social dynamics because he's an expert on social media.

Kendrick and D'Angelo are transcendent musicians, but any artist shouldn't be confused with men and women who are extrememly well-educated to form nuanced, well-crafted analysis which can help social issues.

Mistaking celebs with experts in social conditions discounts the amount of effort, education, social skill and consistently hard work social change requires.

  

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D'angelo - Rolling Stone uh........remember that Kendrick quote? [View all] , c71, Mon Jun-15-15 12:58 PM
 
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I didn't have an issue with the Kendrick quote...
Jun 15th 2015
1
agreed
Jun 15th 2015
2
this doesn't remind me of Kendrick's quote.
Jun 15th 2015
3
"it starts from within" Kendrick
Jun 15th 2015
4
      i don't have a problem w/either statement.
Jun 15th 2015
10
      like the linked article on reply #4
Jun 15th 2015
11
           good luck.
Jun 15th 2015
13
      I hate that fucking dude Tom Barnes (author of the article)
Jun 15th 2015
19
i wish he would have expounded
Jun 15th 2015
5
Well self improvement will help one to improve
Jun 15th 2015
6
dig deep and transform
Jun 15th 2015
7
well there's also macro/micro or rather individual vs collective at issu...
Jun 15th 2015
20
      totally agree
Jun 15th 2015
22
There's some nuance b/w what he and Kendrick said.
Jun 15th 2015
8
few people separate what the police are doing from
Jun 15th 2015
9
Words mean things
Jun 15th 2015
14
Maybe you didn't read that second half of the quote
Jun 15th 2015
12
      Context matters.
Jun 15th 2015
15
           exactly.
Jun 15th 2015
28
We gotta stop looking at our entertainers like they're our intellectuals
Jun 15th 2015
16
nah, their words definitely hold weight...
Jun 15th 2015
17
i mean, they CAN be intellectuals, but not necessarily political thinker...
Jun 15th 2015
29
for me it depends on the type of music the artist is known for...
Jun 15th 2015
32
Race relations vs. Police killing us unlawfully
Jun 15th 2015
18
and you're really trying to assert that in OKP recently
Jun 15th 2015
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      It is connected, but Kendrick explicit stated that "respecting ourselves...
Jun 15th 2015
33
wasn't kendrick asked a specific question re: police brutality?
Jun 15th 2015
23
here's part of the article - see if race is raised in the article - or j...
Jun 15th 2015
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      so the answer is yes
Jun 15th 2015
25
           the question had the term "African-Americans" in it
Jun 15th 2015
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                whet
Jun 15th 2015
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                ....like...
Jun 15th 2015
34
                A lot of reasons. He's young, famous, and got new money to start
Jun 15th 2015
30
Kendrick brought respectability politics into the question of police bru...
Jun 15th 2015
31
where's Afkap? D'Angelo speaking fondly of the
Jun 16th 2015
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