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CHARLIE HEBDO

‘Je Suis Charlie’ and Where We Go From Here

We all know how it goes with modern atrocities. Every blood puddle gets turned into a Rorschach blot. The way it’s interpreted is guaranteed to expose unconscious (or even conscious) special pleading at best, and an agenda in search of opportunities at worst. Last week, all that happened like clockwork.

BY TOM CARSON ON JANUARY 13, 2015
Tribute To Charlie Hebdo At French Embassy In Buenos Aires
In photographs, the staff of Charlie Hebdo who got massacred in Paris last Wednesday looks like a happy crew. The atmosphere of exhilarated, jauntily scruffy mischief-making is familiar to me from my own alt-weekly days, and the feeling of intimacy was unsettling.

Outright identification would have been asinine, of course. No publication I worked for ever got firebombed, as Charlie Hebdo’s office was in 2011 for the effrontery of depicting the Prophet Muhammad while making him a guest editor — let alone carried on undeterred afterward, with results that we all now know. All the same, it was easy for me to imagine — or think I could imagine, anyhow — what editor-in-chief Stéphane “Charb” Charbonnier and his colleagues who were also killed might have been like as individuals: their mannerisms, their jokes. I got upset at how quickly their deaths were depersonalized in the worldwide media scrum.

And so what? I might as well have kicked off a take on the 2005 London subway bombings by saying, “My god, I’ve ridden subways!” Or in this case, gone on about my incredulity at such a thing happening in Paris and not some other world capital whose history, language, and other tourist attractions I’m less smitten with.

But we all know how it goes with modern atrocities. Every blood puddle gets turned into a Rorschach blot. The way it’s interpreted is guaranteed to expose unconscious (or even conscious) special pleading at best, and an agenda in search of opportunities at worst. Last week, all of that happened like clockwork.

For starters: Yes, media outlets in Western democracies do react differently to horrors like this when members of our own guild are the targets. Also when they happen in France and not, say, Somalia — where a dozen journalists were killed in 2012 alone — and involve Caucasians. Boko Haram, a Muslim militant group, butchered 2,000 people in Nigeria last week — men, women, and children — and it goes without saying that the coverage wasn’t remotely comparable. Because the shock wasn’t comparable. I wouldn’t have insisted on the Nigerian body count’s greater newsworthiness myself. Never mind what that may say about double standards, parochial priorities, or simply being inured to the idea that hell is the norm in some parts of the world. Just not Paris, at least not yet.

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All the same, most Americans aren’t a lot more familiar with French social and cultural constructs than they are with Nigeria’s. (It’s not a sin, just a fact.) Until last week, precious few of us had ever heard of Charlie Hebdo, much less had any notion of the crass and impious journalistic tradition it belongs to. Anticlericalism is virtually France’s other religion — and has been since the Enlightenment, thanks to the Catholic Church’s once state-sanctioned leverage in public life — and the rude mockery known as gouaille, which exults in obscene caricature and take-no-prisoners toilet humor, is to French political and religious satire what guacamole is to the Super Bowl. It doesn’t affect the game’s outcome, but at least you won’t starve.

Indeed, one French blogger made the point that — First Amendment or no First Amendment — a publication like Charlie Hebdo would never be tolerated in the U.S. Not only would Fox News burst a gasket at its blasphemous takes on Christianity, but liberals ready to defend kicking Mike Huckabee in the teeth would change their tune as soon as Judaism or Islam came in for the same treatment. Just imagine the reaction on Stateside college campuses, which can be as hostile to free speech that trespasses on anyone’s sensibilities as any fundamentalist backwater.

(Another measure of the cultural gulf between Paris and New York is a quote from the martyred Charbonnier about Charlie Hebdo’s ambitions as an equal-opportunity offender: “We have to carry on until Islam has been rendered as banal as Catholicism.” Whatever you think of that goal, just try to imagine any U.S. editor choosing that particular adjective to define it. Do you feel uncivilized yet?)

Mass Unity Rally Held In Paris Following Recent Terrorist AttacksChristopher Furlong/Getty Images

The paradox is that, like other European countries, France does have laws against “hate speech” more stringent than anything in place on this side of the Atlantic — and their applicability keeps getting broadened, too. An American version of Charlie Hebdo would likely fold in the face of cultural opprobrium, sure. But it wouldn’t risk being charged with a crime, which the French one not infrequently did.

Among the other ominous absurdities noted in an op-ed piece by law professor Jonathan Turley in last Friday’s Washington Post, actress (and octogenarian head case) Brigitte Bardot has been convicted and fined several times for making anti-Muslim remarks — once in a letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, who later became the French president. Imagining something similar happening to Rush Limbaugh may be fun, but we’re lucky it can’t and won’t. Loathing hate speech is one thing, but any time criminalizing it starts sounding like a dandy idea to you, remember — among other things — that you won’t be the one to define what it is.

Because the possible murder of 17 people, including the hostages killed in later standoffs, wasn’t on anyone’s radar, politicians and professional bloviators across the spectrum both here and in Europe became free-speech champions overnight. But that didn’t stop plenty of them from hastening to put daylight between the principle they were defending and Charlie Hebdo’s gleefully scurrilous demonstration of how it works in practice. It was an unfortunate side effect: advertising their discomfort with or outright dislike of unfettered speech.

Whenever I caught a gurgle of Olympian throat-clearing in somebody’s condemnation of the killings, I’d brace myself for the first “However,” which usually didn’t take long to show up. Attempts to distinguish between “good” free speech — judicious, responsible free speech that takes care not to insult or abuse anybody, which could make the NyQuil of Obama’s rhetoric seem dangerously exciting — and “bad” free speech are pretty fatuous under any circumstances. But wishing Charlie Hebdo had been a more commendable, less snotty sort of publication brutally misses the point.

Then again, thinking that freedom of speech was what Charb and his colleagues died for could just be the West’s latest romantic fallacy. The day of the attacks, Informed Comment blogger Juan Cole sharply debunked the idea that jihadis really are goaded to murder by offensive cartoons. (In accepting that as their motive, we do give them credit for sincerity, after all.) Cole sees the Charlie Hebdo massacre instead as a bid by Al Qaeda to provoke a crackdown on French Muslims that will escalate their alienation and radicalize them in turn, inflaming the conflict that radical Islamists and anti-Islam jingoes — unlike most of the rest of us, Muslim or not — both want. I’m not sure he’s right, but his analysis is a useful warning against getting misled by sentimentality.

In the meantime, we do have a cause to rally around, no matter how unclear it is what else we’re supposed to do besides rally. The enormous, grieving demonstrations in Paris and other Western capitals were moving and cathartic, but beyond expressing solidarity, what does saying “I am Charlie” mean? It’s not a program, although “What would Charlie do?” might be. The audience that bought tickets on Christmas for The Interview — a movie whose troubles now seem downright larky by comparison — had good reasons to feel proud of itself, and so do the millions who turned out to memorialize the Charlie Hebdo victims. What the effect will be on the policies of Western governments, let alone jihadis, is awfully nebulous.

On the other hand, the practical consequences of the attack itself aren’t hard to predict at all. Media outlets will be even more jittery about producing or even reproducing content that could make them the next target — an anxiety already evident from the many venues that either censored or just refused to publish the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that allegedly provoked the killers, despite their obvious news value. The same politicians now voicing brave boilerplate about our freedoms will go right back to citing “irresponsibility” and “poor judgment” the next time some publication that hasn’t gotten the memo actually does something brave.

The lives of France’s Muslims will get crappier and riskier, and as for France’s Jews, they’re already reportedly emigrating in droves. As for the rest of us, all we’ve learned for sure is the same thing the world’s been teaching us since 9/11: no shelter anywhere.

Tom Carson (@TomCarsonWriter) is the author of Gilligan’s Wake and Daisy Buchanan’s Daughter.

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Charlie Hebdo to have the prophet Muhammad as their next front cover - s... [View all] , Tommy-B, Tue Jan-13-15 03:46 PM
 
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this's actually a really good cover
Jan 13th 2015
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nope...
Jan 13th 2015
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Blue. p.s. Muhammad (saws) never had a mustache!
Jan 13th 2015
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I like it
Jan 13th 2015
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I am for it but its not even about Free Speech. It's more about you can'...
Jan 13th 2015
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Well said.
Jan 13th 2015
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Exactly.
Jan 14th 2015
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If you tell someone to shut the fuck up, and they respond
Jan 14th 2015
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      That's not what happened here.
Jan 14th 2015
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      why is it okay to voice opposition to Westboro Baptist but not to Charli...
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      Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK haven't been subject to massacre.
Jan 14th 2015
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      RE: Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK haven't been subject to massacre...
Jan 14th 2015
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      wtf are you talking about?
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           oh okay.
Jan 14th 2015
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                happy to have been of assistance.
Jan 14th 2015
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      LOL sure it isnt.
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           Who gets to judge "smart"? Who gets to judge "disrespectful"?
Jan 14th 2015
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                No they arent but they are packaged as fart jokes.
Jan 14th 2015
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      Fuck yeah I lost something if someone punks me into not talking.
Jan 14th 2015
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           so white ppl lost when they stopped calling us 'nigger'.
Jan 14th 2015
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                Black people definitely won something when it because socially unaccepta...
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                     and freedom of expression suffers.
Jan 14th 2015
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                          Not really. Folks are free to use the N word all they want.
Jan 14th 2015
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                               yes, Buddy.
Jan 14th 2015
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                                    and you know what else is wrong?
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                                         I hear you but I disagree. Charlie Hedbo, South Park, The Onion, Colbert...
Jan 14th 2015
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                                              ^
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                                              even those folks censor themselves though.
Jan 14th 2015
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                                              And I am sure Charlie Hedbo censors themselves sometimes to. so?
Jan 14th 2015
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                                                   so they should've censored themselves when it came to those
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                                                   Why? because you think so?
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                                                        *pats head*
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                                                             As one of my favourite posters
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                                                                  if i gave a fuck about your opinion of me
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                                                                       *reluctantly updates database with a heavy heart*...
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                                                   ugh... I can't even fathom what they find too contraversal
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                                              RE: I hear you but I disagree. Charlie Hedbo, South Park, The Onion, Col...
Jan 14th 2015
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I don't agree.
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lol freedom of expression i get it. but where is the respect?
Jan 13th 2015
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no ideology is validated simply by its own existence
Jan 13th 2015
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Lol it exists. and at some point u have
Jan 13th 2015
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respect is subjective
Jan 13th 2015
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nm
Jan 13th 2015
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First off, I don't HAVE to respect shit. More importantly me not followi...
Jan 13th 2015
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Lol if you wanna keep thinking like an idiot ok.
Jan 13th 2015
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      Freedom of speech is not freedom from offense.
Jan 14th 2015
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      Wow what a glorious spectacular way to fall apart and catch and L.
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           RE: Wow what a glorious spectacular way to fall apart and catch and L.
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Actually, you don't.
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they almost had to at this point.
Jan 13th 2015
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So I'm assuming his head is *supposed* to look like a dick?
Jan 13th 2015
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^^^^^^
Jan 14th 2015
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Its my right to wear a red shirt whenever I feel like it, right?
Jan 13th 2015
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no, you do not have the right to wear a red shirt
Jan 13th 2015
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This analogy is so dumb because the question is what world do you
Jan 13th 2015
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Well...
Jan 13th 2015
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      somethings are worth dying for, somethings arent
Jan 13th 2015
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It was her fault because she wore a short skirt.
Jan 14th 2015
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Stupid asses. Not a surprise though.
Jan 13th 2015
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you dont?
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RE: you dont?
Jan 13th 2015
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      You don't think giving in would send a "This worked!" message?!
Jan 14th 2015
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           this is laughable
Jan 14th 2015
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           Why so? Care to expand?
Jan 14th 2015
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           Agreed
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                hello.
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                because the 1% profit immensely from all of this
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                right.
Jan 14th 2015
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                The whole "We'll show them" attitude just points to the inability...
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                ^^^ Right here
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           RE: You don't think giving in would send a "This worked!" message?!
Jan 14th 2015
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they do it to push the limits on france's freedom of speech
Jan 13th 2015
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< -- not Charlie.
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me neither...
Jan 13th 2015
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fuck charlie
Jan 14th 2015
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      double fuck charlie.
Jan 14th 2015
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Moves and counter moves now
Jan 13th 2015
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from 60k units to 3 milly. Hmmmm
Jan 13th 2015
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Anything is possible
Jan 13th 2015
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If they're willing to deal with the reactions...
Jan 13th 2015
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They shouldn't be bullied into silencing their mode of expression.
Jan 13th 2015
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they don't have a universal right to freedom of expression
Jan 13th 2015
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France doesn't have jurisdiction over the Universe.
Jan 13th 2015
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      no shit we're talking about france...
Jan 13th 2015
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           where did I cite "french law" ?
Jan 13th 2015
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                you didn't. that was your error.
Jan 13th 2015
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                     Let me help you out.
Jan 13th 2015
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Well said
Jan 13th 2015
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RE: Well said
Jan 13th 2015
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Everyone has the right to freedom of expression.
Jan 13th 2015
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RE: They shouldn't be bullied into silencing their mode of expression.
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      RE: They shouldn't be bullied into silencing their mode of expression.
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           You're profoundly simple.
Jan 14th 2015
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                neat.
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JESUS, CHARLIE.
Jan 13th 2015
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theyre gonna be selling like 50 cent mixtapes in the early aughts
Jan 13th 2015
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I'm fucking sick and tired of the term "respect" being thrown around
Jan 14th 2015
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BOOM! (c) John Madden
Jan 14th 2015
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LMAO. no.
Jan 14th 2015
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as much as Charlie has a right to put out their images
Jan 14th 2015
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i'm fucking sick and tired of whitey being mad about being asked to
Jan 14th 2015
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      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 14th 2015
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      thank you
Jan 14th 2015
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      lol - this is what some of y'all really just want to say:
Jan 14th 2015
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      I mean, he gave good reasons why; you just dismissed them...
Jan 14th 2015
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      Now if only the French would admit their obvious hatred for non-whites
Jan 14th 2015
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      you do realize that you're using "they" with reckless abandon, right?
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           Sure, fella.
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           they seemed pretty united at that march
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      cmon, Vex. His statement was HIGHLY qualified.
Jan 14th 2015
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      yup. whitey != all white ppl.
Jan 14th 2015
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      lol!
Jan 14th 2015
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      WHAT??? How DARE you speak of context??? FREE SPEEEEEECH
Jan 14th 2015
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      lol 'some?' We are all sick of Whitey Ford's Blues
Jan 14th 2015
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      Aw, you are so cute when you're mad.
Jan 14th 2015
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      bitch, I'm always cute.
Jan 14th 2015
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           lmao
Jan 14th 2015
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      Go after the whitey power structure then, Killing Cartoonist doesn't fur...
Jan 14th 2015
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      *pats head*
Jan 14th 2015
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           This remarkably sounds like every rape convo ever had on these boards
Jan 14th 2015
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                yes, we have.
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      ***STANDING O***
Jan 14th 2015
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      claps to this...
Jan 14th 2015
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      http://images.cpcache.com/merchandise/514_400x400_NoPeel.jpg?region=name...
Jan 14th 2015
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      BTW, how does Boko Haram fit into all this?
Jan 14th 2015
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      jesus.
Jan 14th 2015
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      You know how they fit in? Because they killed 2000 black people
Jan 14th 2015
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      ^
Jan 14th 2015
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      ush, doing too much now.
Jan 14th 2015
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      Say it again.
Jan 14th 2015
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      RE: i'm fucking sick and tired of whitey being mad about being asked to
Jan 14th 2015
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      so pretty much fuck anyone who disagrees with you. got it.
Jan 14th 2015
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           RE: so pretty much fuck anyone who disagrees with you. got it.
Jan 14th 2015
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      nailing it
Jan 14th 2015
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      How come you know so much about French race relations?
Jan 14th 2015
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Not to sound ignorant but I thought that was Osama not Muhammad
Jan 14th 2015
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^^good point. I thought M was...rounder.
Jan 14th 2015
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Does France really have "Freedom of Speech?"
Jan 14th 2015
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You could post those sorts of links in the U.S., too
Jan 14th 2015
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No you can't. Not like that...
Jan 14th 2015
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You know, I was thinking someone would bring this up a looong time ago.
Jan 14th 2015
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zzzzzzzzzzzz...
Jan 14th 2015
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Damn some of y'all got some low ass opinions of Muslims.
Jan 14th 2015
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my GOD.
Jan 14th 2015
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those shooters don't represent all muslims
Jan 14th 2015
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I don't disagree with what you said but I don't think it was responsive
Jan 14th 2015
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Buddy I'll be real with you
Jan 14th 2015
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I mean John Brown, Nat Turner are heroes to me.
Jan 14th 2015
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      KKK is part of the power structure though
Jan 14th 2015
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           KKK these days are a bunch of underemployed highschool drop outs
Jan 14th 2015
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                I don't buy it and I don't give em' a pass
Jan 14th 2015
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                     Suit yourself but I don't believe in GIVING certain people power over me
Jan 14th 2015
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                          It's not about giving power it's about balancing the scales
Jan 14th 2015
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who said they were freedom fighters?
Jan 14th 2015
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what?!
Jan 14th 2015
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France’s Jews, they’re already reportedly emigrating in droves
Jan 14th 2015
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I am not Charlie. Swipe.
Jan 14th 2015
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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RE: I am not Charlie. Swipe.
Jan 14th 2015
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Can you stop with the stupid fucking analogy?
Jan 14th 2015
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      Huh?
Jan 14th 2015
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      RE: Can you stop with the stupid fucking analogy?
Jan 14th 2015
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      they're willfully ignorant.
Jan 14th 2015
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           You follow his analogy?
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                *pats head*
Jan 14th 2015
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                RE: You follow his analogy?
Jan 14th 2015
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                     listen, fucker.
Jan 14th 2015
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This is another person not familiar with CH writing it off as racist.
Jan 14th 2015
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RE: This is another person not familiar with CH writing it off as racist...
Jan 14th 2015
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RE: This is another person not familiar with CH writing it off as racist...
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      RE: This is another person not familiar with CH writing it off as racist...
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cosign
Jan 14th 2015
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/271737960646?nav=SEARCH
Jan 14th 2015
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Never thought i see the day when blacks defend a minstrel show
Jan 14th 2015
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That was their first cartoon
Jan 14th 2015
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They want to be on the white side of history
Jan 14th 2015
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RE: Charlie Hebdo to have the prophet Muhammad as their next front cover...
Jan 14th 2015
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African Americans - 13% of US Population/50% of US Prison Population
Jan 14th 2015
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RE: African Americans - 13% of US Population/50% of US Prison Population
Jan 14th 2015
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      you don't see their recurring caricature of a muslim (mohammed) as racis...
Jan 14th 2015
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      RE: you don't see their recurring caricature of a muslim (mohammed) as r...
Jan 14th 2015
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           I thought that is what you would hide behind. Religious Discrimination
Jan 14th 2015
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                RE: I thought that is what you would hide behind. Religious Discriminati...
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                     If you really cared if the cartoons were racist or not
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                     RE: If you really cared if the cartoons were racist or not
Jan 14th 2015
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                          "Massa Charlie aint racist yall"
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                     and you still haven't answered my question from a few replies prior
Jan 14th 2015
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                          RE: and you still haven't answered my question from a few replies prior
Jan 14th 2015
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      their drawings can easily be construed as racist
Jan 14th 2015
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there are a few cartoons depicting black France officials
Jan 14th 2015
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      RE: there are a few cartoons depicting black France officials
Jan 14th 2015
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           That actually ads a lot of context
Jan 14th 2015
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           thanks for this
Jan 14th 2015
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           Actually yes it still is
Jan 14th 2015
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                RE: Actually yes it still is
Jan 15th 2015
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/lliana-bird/charlie-hebdo_b_6461030.html
Jan 14th 2015
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Well, here's what former contributor Oliver Cyran wrote...
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      RE: Well, here's what former contributor Oliver Cyran wrote...
Jan 14th 2015
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           *sigh*
Jan 14th 2015
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           Exactly
Jan 14th 2015
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           on the surface they are racist...
Jan 14th 2015
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                RE: on the surface they are racist...
Jan 14th 2015
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It's about respect. Clearly. (NWS)
Jan 14th 2015
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agreed
Jan 14th 2015
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Really love how everyone is an expert on French race politics
Jan 14th 2015
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lol right? they don't care, though. It's raging think-piece revolution
Jan 14th 2015
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there's a million things that aren't illegal to print. why this?
Jan 14th 2015
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      Because they can
Jan 14th 2015
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Understanding Charlie Hebdo.
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