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30. "they're saying what you're saying but they're not Black men"
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so you don't get it.

they're saying that BLM should retain the 'Black' and in the process should NOT seek to marginalize those of us ***********BLACKS*************** who are not STRAIGHT BLACK MEN.

fucker.

fuck you.

fuck you.

  

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the byproduct of terming it black lives matter [View all] , Binlahab, Tue Dec-23-14 11:16 AM
 
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immigrants and others arent unfairly targeted by police*
Dec 23rd 2014
1
then deal w/ the masses of others not caring abt it
Dec 23rd 2014
3
right because there are no black immigrants
Dec 23rd 2014
8
there are certainly "black" immigrants
Dec 23rd 2014
10
      one of the BLM founders runs the black alliance for just immigration
Dec 23rd 2014
13
           Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner were black
Dec 23rd 2014
21
                yea i got that
Dec 23rd 2014
24
                why are they the most publicized?
Dec 23rd 2014
32
                     we dont need to convince anyone they should care
Dec 23rd 2014
49
                          so how can you say this on 1 hand
Dec 23rd 2014
52
                               that's exactly why Black Lives Matters is NOT about that
Dec 23rd 2014
53
                               they arent my marches or protests, Im not involved
Dec 23rd 2014
81
you know in AZ you can be stopped for looking 'illegal' right?
Dec 23rd 2014
15
jesus christ this is possibly one of the dumest things
Dec 23rd 2014
63
^^thinks all asterisks matter
Dec 23rd 2014
78
I know two people shot by police...both white
Dec 23rd 2014
80
wtf? they're not? you tryna tell me latinos aren't unfairly targeted?
Jul 12th 2016
181
amen.
Dec 23rd 2014
2
but what we're talking abt is police killing people
Dec 23rd 2014
5
stop talking about gay ppl like we ain't black.
Dec 23rd 2014
12
what comes first tho? something has to supersede
Dec 23rd 2014
19
      oh stfu.
Dec 23rd 2014
23
      Blackness supersedes for me.
Dec 23rd 2014
27
           you don't know and won't know what it is for me.
Dec 23rd 2014
31
                ok...uh, you the one who asked the question.
Dec 23rd 2014
33
                     in your twisted little mind one of them supersedes.
Dec 23rd 2014
35
                          you said set me straight.
Dec 23rd 2014
38
                               i also said 'fuck you'. LOL @ that shit.
Dec 23rd 2014
39
                                    i imagine you got like HELLA matted peasy chest hair. #pass
Dec 23rd 2014
41
                                         sho you right.
Dec 23rd 2014
46
      and imma post this here since you wouldn't read it below lol
Dec 23rd 2014
26
           I gotcha! ok, ive been misled. black lives matter is not abt
Dec 23rd 2014
42
                Black queer and trans people experience
Dec 23rd 2014
67
                     and that's not to mention Black migrants
Dec 23rd 2014
68
that is what you are talking about but not what BLM is
Dec 23rd 2014
29
RE: amen.
Dec 23rd 2014
6
      the Macklemoring of activism.
Dec 23rd 2014
14
           RE: the Macklemoring of activism.
Dec 23rd 2014
76
RE: the byproduct of terming it black lives matter
Dec 23rd 2014
4
you're a professional musician (primarily in Hip-Hop)
Dec 23rd 2014
18
      RE: you're a professional musician (primarily in Hip-Hop)
Dec 23rd 2014
77
           you've applied your own definition of "All Lives Matter"
Dec 23rd 2014
82
It's not even folks getting offended. It's apathy that kills movements....
Dec 23rd 2014
7
do yall have a bunch of friends of other cultures/ethnicities?
Dec 23rd 2014
11
yep...i agree 100%
Dec 23rd 2014
16
the women behind BLM are writing some awesome critical work
Dec 23rd 2014
9
listen, i dig that, but its too many SAT words. for real.
Dec 23rd 2014
17
      and there are, have been, and will be many solidarity BLM protests
Dec 23rd 2014
22
      & thats outstanding. Fr. Pfleger in Chicago. love that guy.
Dec 23rd 2014
28
           that is just not the objective IMO
Dec 23rd 2014
34
           What you're saying is that real solidarity don't exist
Dec 23rd 2014
69
     
           thats not what im saying tho.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                good for you.
Dec 23rd 2014
40
                so therefore your previous statement is wrong.
Dec 23rd 2014
44
                     oh, no i stand by that.
Dec 23rd 2014
47
                you can't go anywhere FROM Black lives matters
Dec 23rd 2014
43
                & i *think* i have that now. i stand corrected.
Dec 23rd 2014
45
                     why is it a subset all of a sudden?
Dec 23rd 2014
51
                     because i thought it was abt police brutality?
Dec 23rd 2014
57
                          i have no idea what you are talking about
Dec 23rd 2014
62
                               so wait. tell me where im off base here.
Dec 23rd 2014
66
                                    i'm saying you must be missing the point of BLM if that's what you belie...
Dec 23rd 2014
70
                                    you keep saying im missing the point. what is the point?
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                    you feel represented by BLM
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                         ok. got it.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                              you don't need my opinion
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     Activist movements have a way of erasing us
Dec 23rd 2014
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                          if you let em!
Dec 23rd 2014
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                               Have you been to the marches?
Dec 23rd 2014
61
                geez this is what YOU are doing
Dec 23rd 2014
64
i love the idea but it's gotta be #alllivesmatter
Dec 23rd 2014
20
right, just like we have to give everyone a trophy b/c they
Dec 23rd 2014
25
lol
Dec 23rd 2014
55
Black Lives Matter doesnt give a fuck about everybody riding along
Jul 12th 2016
98
All Lives Matter just isn't true, though because Black lives don't matte...
Jul 12th 2016
125
the byproduct of terming it black lives matter
Dec 23rd 2014
37
I like that the word Black is being used publicly
Dec 23rd 2014
48
is the goal of the movement to stop police brutality
Dec 23rd 2014
50
It's to reach a critical mass of individuals
Dec 23rd 2014
60
truth
Dec 23rd 2014
54
delete
Dec 23rd 2014
59
I feel very both/and about it. No1 seems to be wrapping their heads
Dec 23rd 2014
65
The reason we need to affirm BlackLivesMatter is b/c
Dec 23rd 2014
71
So what. IDGAFeak about others people think regarding #BlackLivesMatter
Dec 23rd 2014
74
I've gone 180 on this. I love the name Black Lives Matter
Jul 12th 2016
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It's fascinating how offensive people find the term
Jul 12th 2016
91
im of the all lives matter crew n/m
Jul 12th 2016
84
All Lives Matter doesnt mean "Black Lives Matter Too"
Jul 12th 2016
87
according to who?
Jul 12th 2016
92
      bruh, educate yourself please.
Jul 12th 2016
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      dont come for me, bruh...
Jul 12th 2016
103
           I expressed myself as respectfully as humanly possible
Jul 12th 2016
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                I can respect if that's how it showed up for you...
Jul 12th 2016
110
                     respectfully, All Lives Matter means one of two things
Jul 12th 2016
122
                          how can you use something of a personal nature...
Jul 12th 2016
135
                               cant say I didnt try. have yourself a blessed day
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    we still cool tho
Jul 12th 2016
142
      It's the context in which they are using it, Trin. It's right there.
Jul 12th 2016
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           I hear you...
Jul 12th 2016
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                yes, definitely.. that's the whole point of ALM
Jul 12th 2016
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                     correct me if I'm wrong...
Jul 12th 2016
132
                          pretty much
Jul 12th 2016
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How's that movement moving? Funny no one ever said ALM before BLM
Jul 12th 2016
89
and where are they when someone is killed by a cop?
Jul 12th 2016
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I'm anti- #AllLivesMatter at this point
Jul 12th 2016
90
      C'mon, they're intentionally not getting it. Willfully ignorant
Jul 12th 2016
94
           I wish it wasn't that way, but it truly is.
Jul 12th 2016
105
whoever doesn't get it by now doesn't want to get it
Jul 12th 2016
85
That's how white supremacy works. The word black is an attack
Jul 12th 2016
86
Yeah it's very interesting, the easier path would be to seperate the iss...
Jul 12th 2016
93
      Yo I love that idea.
Jul 12th 2016
134
Nigga please its more offensive that people feel the need to say it.
Jul 12th 2016
88
when you're so woke you sound crazy
Jul 12th 2016
95
Yea genius sound crazy to basic people
Jul 12th 2016
99
      your overnight solution for racism is to stop being scared of whitey
Jul 12th 2016
101
           You know what they say about assumptions right
Jul 12th 2016
102
           no assumptions champ. here are your words copied and pasted
Jul 12th 2016
109
                Damn, homey... so you think we should keep living on our knees?
Jul 12th 2016
118
                     yeah, he went too far and took Musa too literal
Jul 12th 2016
120
                     I dont have a solution
Jul 12th 2016
126
           The first step is for us to love and respect ourselves...
Jul 12th 2016
111
                Pretty much and over night to me is one generation 24 to 30 years
Jul 12th 2016
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                logical nigga of the year right here
Jul 12th 2016
127
                BANG! (c) Mike Breen
Jul 12th 2016
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Whut? I guess if we have self of steam...cops will stop killing
Jul 12th 2016
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      Yup because they will know it will be serious repercussion
Jul 12th 2016
100
           Yeah that's crazy talk. I mean would you give that advice to your kid?
Jul 12th 2016
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                No crazy talk my man is talking about rights with a homicidal gun carryi...
Jul 12th 2016
112
I had this convo with someone recently
Jul 12th 2016
106
I'll never ever agree with the "All Lives Matter" thing
Jul 12th 2016
116
      All men are created equal = all lives matter
Jul 12th 2016
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      The 3/5ths thing is my pet peeve.
Jul 12th 2016
124
           we were slaves.. who gives a shit about 3/5 or 5/5
Jul 12th 2016
129
                Then why bring it up?
Jul 12th 2016
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                     lmao.. I brought it up to show words don't mean shit
Jul 12th 2016
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                          I mentioned it was pet peeve of mine. Pet peeves are weird by
Jul 12th 2016
154
                               lol
Jul 12th 2016
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                               nigga what is wrong with you?
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    Bottom line: "3/5ths" had zero moral component.
Jul 12th 2016
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                                         Nigga wtf is wrong with you
Jul 12th 2016
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      You don't have to.
Jul 12th 2016
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           It's kind of all bullshit though and an excuse to dismiss the cause.
Jul 12th 2016
123
           Guliani really is a piece of shit isn't he?
Jul 12th 2016
164
           that's because you're not Black
Jul 12th 2016
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                Lol im not white.
Jul 12th 2016
                BLM doesn't need you or anyone else who trips over the name.
Jul 12th 2016
136
                LMAO im behind it 100% it effects me. Don't think keeping the name is he...
Jul 12th 2016
144
                     great.
Jul 12th 2016
146
                Nah, man. It doesn't matter if you give a fuck or not. That's the point.
Jul 12th 2016
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                right. numbers don't count. cool ok.
Jul 12th 2016
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                     no, we don't need people like you need a name change
Jul 12th 2016
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                     Why is the name an issue for *you*?
Jul 12th 2016
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                          it's because he isn't Black
Jul 12th 2016
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                               1 you would never tell me fuck you to face so stop pretending thats a th...
Jul 12th 2016
168
                                    1) never say never
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    The name isn't taking the spotlight from the goal...
Jul 12th 2016
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                                         You are talking about what people SHOULD be doing
Jul 13th 2016
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                but your not Black..
Jul 12th 2016
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                Lol im not white.
Jul 12th 2016
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                     it isn't blocking progress at all
Jul 12th 2016
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                     ok
Jul 12th 2016
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                          glad we settled that, now you can be wrong about something else
Jul 12th 2016
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                     the name is blocking progress bc America has a problem with blackness
Jul 12th 2016
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                     My point is there is a problem with the name
Jul 12th 2016
157
                          bruh, an election has 2 candidates...
Jul 12th 2016
161
                          Way to not answer the question. But ok.
Jul 12th 2016
166
                               BLM is a great marketing tool
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    The idea definitely was........great marketing tools work.
Jul 12th 2016
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                                         this shit doesnt happen in a microwave
Jul 12th 2016
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                          it's not on Black Lives Matter to fight differently
Jul 12th 2016
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                               Theres a difference between just spreading a message
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    ....
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    the name and the point of the movement go hand in hand
Jul 12th 2016
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                     You assume that the people it offends are 'win-able'
Jul 12th 2016
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                          it's like asking Obama to say radical muslim
Jul 12th 2016
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                          Pretty much. If anything, it's more powerful for someone
Jul 12th 2016
182
                          IMO some are 'winnable' but in other terms
Jul 12th 2016
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                               nah.. the white thing doesn't work
Jul 12th 2016
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                                    ^^^Preach
Jul 12th 2016
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                                         You see it
Jul 12th 2016
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i dont trust all lives matter people
Jul 12th 2016
115
the root of the issue is cops killing black people for no reason
Jul 12th 2016
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Well -- there is a reason.
Jul 12th 2016
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it's clearly 'Black lives matter TOO'
Jul 12th 2016
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If there should be any change it should be this:
Jul 12th 2016
152
Naw man, it's willful ignorance to read BLM as "Only BLM" and not
Jul 12th 2016
177
Oh, I know what it is Buddy but that one word would create silence
Jul 12th 2016
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      Bruh, no matter what its changed to people will have a problem with it
Jul 12th 2016
202
Thats actually a great suggestion
Jul 13th 2016
213
You know, I consider myself to be a man of average intelligence...
Jul 12th 2016
180
EXACTLY, let the title as is, a litmus test for being half with it or ig...
Jul 12th 2016
183
Well we could have a whole nother convo whether the leaderless
Jul 12th 2016
186
it's obvious as fuck, and i feel like most people are knowingly obtuse
Jul 12th 2016
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I tell this to everyone, that when you frame your movement or cause
Jul 12th 2016
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no. 'Black lives matter' is perfect.
Jul 12th 2016
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ok
Jul 12th 2016
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it's better this way. everyone immediately shows what they're about
Jul 12th 2016
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Yeah, plus the #alllivesmatter crowd is quick to drop #bluelivesmatter
Jul 12th 2016
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      Imagine the shitstorm if we insisted folks say "Blue Lives Matter too"
Jul 12th 2016
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           ALLlivesmatterTOO
Jul 12th 2016
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I think its willful misunderstanding
Jul 13th 2016
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They assume the worst. It all stems from the same place.
Jul 12th 2016
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dgaf about all the other nefariously created interpretations of BLM
Jul 12th 2016
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'black lives matter, right?'
Jul 12th 2016
141
Folks are arguing it's a bad name because it makes us focus on black ppl
Jul 12th 2016
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right? If that dirtbag hates it then I love it.
Jul 12th 2016
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exactly
Jul 12th 2016
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RE: dgaf about all the other nefariously created interpretations of BLM
Jul 12th 2016
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Agreed.
Jul 12th 2016
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sure it's been said already but it also gives us* an out.
Jul 12th 2016
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when it was born on this here site it was "Black Life Matters"
Jul 12th 2016
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whoa.. OKP does it again
Jul 12th 2016
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Yoooooooo, my head just exploded. Just before work too.
Jul 13th 2016
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      I'm not. Can't say if Louie is/was
Jul 13th 2016
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           Wiki is saying the hashtag started in 2013.
Jul 13th 2016
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                Well...
Jul 13th 2016
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I'll admit, there are some non-nafarious people talking AllLivesMatter
Jul 14th 2016
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Just a reminder of how WE spent a lot of time talking about the NAME
Jun 09th 2020
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All it takes is a spark and the Overton Window can shift quickly
Jun 09th 2020
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The name is the name
Jun 09th 2020
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if the word defund is getting them to talk about it
Jun 09th 2020
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      exactly. ultimately, the seed has been planted.
Jun 09th 2020
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thank you for finding this post
Jun 09th 2020
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6 years later "all" vs "black" still the major sticking point smh
Jun 09th 2020
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people are losing business and jobs for saying All Lives tho
Jun 09th 2020
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      Yeah there has been a big shift on this one. Meaning well folks here
Jun 09th 2020
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And several years later... the result of terming it Black Lives Matter:
Jun 09th 2020
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Thanks for this reply
Jun 09th 2020
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happy to!
Jun 09th 2020
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      BLOCK LOIVES MAH-AH* (c) Britain
Jun 10th 2020
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**salute**
Jun 10th 2020
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Correlation isn't causation
Jun 10th 2020
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