I only ask cause about a year ago I used geek/fan boy out and chat to Owen and Kirk on facebook chat. talk about loop pedals with Kirk or royksop with Owen. and one night I introduced Kirk Douglas to blu via facebook chat via YouTube links of blu & exile. he said he hadnt heard it before, still never mentioned it again. but when I heard blu's verses on the album; I had some lofty thoughts that maybe I had a part in the colab.