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>>I can't speak to individuals, but I know that the official >>word from Elijah Muhammad was to leave Malcolm alone. It is >>well known that the organization had more than its fair >share >>of zealots who were unhappy with Malcolm, viewed him as a >>traitor, and thought that he should be dealt with, but that >>doesn't speak to the head of the organization, because the >>official word was to leave him alone. > >I'll jump in and say that another thing about the NOI at that >time was that Elijah Muhammad's health was failing. He was no >longer able to speak for the organization and keep an eye on >activities within the Nation. This was also shown in the >film. >
E.M.'s health had been an issue for a long time but it didn't stop him from commanding his position as leader of the N.O.I. As a matter of fact, he was around for 10 years after Malcolm was assassinated. Does that sound like a man who had wittled away to nothing? I know, I know..."but the movie showed Elijah Muhammad coughing and looking real bad so I assumed..." I understand.
>My colleagues grandfather was in the Audobon ballroom at the >time of Shabazz' death and she told me that everyone there saw >who killed him. COINTELPRO may have been behind the murder >but the people with the guns were Black...from No. 25 in >Newark. >
The people who pulled the trigger WERE Black and I never said that they were not. But I'ma let you in on a secret sis. *leans closer* You listening? *whisper begins* The FBI recruits and hires Black people to obtain information from Black people and to disrupt positive, progressive activities of Black organizations. *whisper ends*
So yes, Black people were the puppets that were seen pulling the trigger, but who was the puppeteer?
Did you know that out of the 5 guys who were seen conducting the assassination of Malcolm X, only one guy actually stood trial for Malcolm's murder. Actually, 3 stood trial, but only one (i.e., Talmadge Hayer) was actually an assassin. The other 2 who were standing trial, as Hayer testified, were not even at the Audobon the day Malcolm was killed. But they were standing trial for Malcolm's death. What happened to the other 4 men? Note: initially, it was reported that 5 men were involved in Malcolm's assassination, but only 3 stood trial and out of thos 3, only one had anything to do with the assassination. What do you think of that?
If you don't believe me? Well check the book, "The Assassination of Malcolm X", by George Breitman and "Conspiracy: Unraveling the Assasination of Malcolm X" by Baba Zak Kondo.
In the mean time, you can chew on the links below to tide you over until you get a hold of the above referenced literature:
http://www.leftgatekeepers.com/articles/WhoEliminatedMalcolmXByBobFeldman.htm
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/film/022193lee-malcolm-book.html
Maybe they will provide some insight into what I've been talking about.
Sis. please note that I am courteous and thoughtful enough to provide references for my position, unlike SOME posters who just say, "Do the research", but don't provide any references at all. (Honestly, that makes me wonder if they know what the hell they are talking about).
>>Who are you saying bombed his house? The NOI? How do you >>know this? > >I tend to go with what Malcolm X said publicly about it.
Well, that's fine; but honestly Malcolm didn't fully know at the time how heavy he was being watched nor did he understand the extent to which the imperialist forces were making moves on him. It may've seemed most apparent that it was the N.O.I. because they had the public beef, but Malcolm really didn't know how badly the US and the (former) colonial powers wanted him eliminated.
It may've been some members of the Nation, it may not have been. Who knows? I know that I don't; I'm sure that Malcolm didn't really know; he just suspected.
> >>We are a flawed people with many, many problems and anytime >we >>attempt to get together on anything, there is a destructive >>mechanism that tends to take place (some identify it as the >>"Willie Lynch chip") that blocks us from gelling completely >>and often things turn out to be a total mess. > >Who isn't flawed? I also don't believe that there is a chip >that makes us unable to make progress. I do believe that >there is conditioning and that is something that can be dealt >with.
Sis. that conditioning that you're speaking of is what some refer to as "the Willie Lynch chip". I personally don't believe in the story of Willie Lynch giving a speech to slave masters some 300 years ago that gave them all the secrets to keeping negroes down. But that conditioning you speak of is the same as "the chip" to which I was referring.
> >>I don't deny >>that we, as a people, have problems; but I also realize that >>this is not something that is inherent in us. It is the >>result of centuries of outside forces conditioning us and >>influencing us. I acknowledge that. > >However, I believe that at the time of Shabazz' death the NOI >was co-opted and corrupt...from the top down. This has >nothing to do with Black people. >
Maybe so; hell, probably so. But to what extent this courruption was prevealent and manifesting itself is the question.
>>At the same time, I can not turn a blind eye and ignore when >>we have been deliberately and blatantly been fucked with. >>Malcolm's murder was the result one of these instances of us >>being deliberately and blatantly being fucked with by >>outsiders who obviously did not and do not have our best >>interest at heart. > >Yes but some Black folks chose to go along. It was a choice >just as Malcolm X chose to leave the NOI and become a true >Muslim.
Honestly, Malcolm didn't "chose to leave the NOI", he was put out or should I say constructively removed from the orgainzation. I don't like that he was put out, but that's how it went down (I know, I know, I know...the movie didn't present it like that, right? But that was actually the case.
I don't know what this "true Muslim" talk is about. What makes what some damn Arabs have more valid than the means of religious expression that Black people have?
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