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"The Sight & Sound 2012 Poll (edit: Director's List revealed)"
Thu Aug-23-12 09:17 AM by Frank Longo

          

EDIT: Scroll down to reply #177 for the Director's List. Thanks Sponge!

Results will be unveiled tomorrow via live-tweeting: @SightSoundmag

from:
http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/polls-surveys/greatest-films-all-time-2012


The Greatest Films of All Time 2012

Nick James introduces the countdown to our Greatest Films of All Time poll.

To many of you it’s probably a familiar story. Every ten years, from 1952 onwards, Sight & Sound has conducted a worldwide poll of critics in order to decide which films are currently regarded as the greatest ever made. (Vittorio De Sica’s neorealist parable Bicycle Thieves won the first iteration only four years after it was shot. Famously, Citizen Kane has won ever since.)

We’re proud that the longevity of this poll means that it’s widely regarded as the most trusted guide there is to the canon of cinema greats. So for us this year is a very big moment.

About a year ago, the Sight & Sound team met to consider how we could best approach the poll this time. Given the dominance of electronic media, what became immediately apparent was that we would have to abandon the somewhat elitist exclusivity with which contributors to the poll had been chosen in the past and reach out to a much wider international group of commentators than before. We were also keen to include among them many critics who had established their careers online rather than purely in print.

To that end we approached more than 1,000 critics, programmers, academics, distributors, writers and other cinephiles, and received (in time for the deadline) precisely 846 top-ten lists that between them mention a total of 2,045 different films.

As a qualification of what ‘greatest’ means, our invitation letter stated, “We leave that open to your interpretation. You might choose the ten films you feel are most important to film history, or the ten that represent the aesthetic pinnacles of achievement, or indeed the ten films that have had the biggest impact on your own view of cinema.”

Each entry on each list counts as one vote for the film in question, so personal rankings within the top tens don’t matter. And one important rule change compared to 2002 was that The Godfather and The Godfather Part II would no longer be accepted as a single choice, since they were made as two separate films.

What the increase in numbers has – and hasn’t – done is surprising. Certainly, we have achieved a consensus on what represents ‘great cinema’ that now has a greater force of numbers behind it – and have a plausible Sight & Sound ‘Top 100 Greatest Films of All Time’.

Since 1992, we have also conducted a separate directors’ poll, which likewise has been dominated by Citizen Kane. Over 350 directors have contributed. Leaving to one side what’s number one this time, I can say that you’ll find a pronounced difference between the filmmakers’ top tens and those of the critics – not to mention many more fascinating sub-themes…


The great unveiling

1 August: live-tweeting from our evening poll announcement. (Follow us at @SightSoundmag, or use the hashtag #sightsoundpoll.) We’ll subsequently be posting the Top 50 Greatest Films of All Time here online.

3-4 August: our redesigned and expanded September 2012 special poll issue is sent to subscribers, and should be available on newsstands (on Friday 3rd in London, and across the UK by Saturday 4th). The 136-page issue features the critics’ Top 100, a new essay on the top film, short essays on every film in our top 10, an essay on changing critical tastes in our poll, top 10s by decade, nationality and genre, the directors’ Top Ten, the critics’ top directors and directors’ top directors, and individual top-ten entries from 100 critics and 100 directors, from Woody Allen to Edgar Wright.

7 August: the September 2012 issue is available to download as a Digital Edition – as an individual purchase from Apple’s Newsstand, or by subscription from our Subscriptions Bureau.

15 August: the complete critics’ poll of 846 entries is published in interactive form on this website.

22 August: the complete interactive directors’ poll of 358 entries follows.


We’ll also be revealing select facts and figures gleaned from our poll results on an ongoing basis here and on Twitter. (You can also like us on Facebook for more selective postings and information.)



  

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The Sight & Sound 2012 Poll (edit: Director's List revealed) [View all] , Sponge, Tue Jul-31-12 05:14 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Ebert's ballot
Jul 31st 2012
1
Tree of Life, really?
Aug 06th 2012
122
      He wrote a long explanation of why he chose it...
Aug 06th 2012
123
           i can understand that
Aug 08th 2012
133
           I wish he'd gone with Synedoche.
Aug 08th 2012
137
Poll Results from '02, '92, '82, '72, '62, and '52
Jul 31st 2012
2
one of these days i need to re-watch Rules of the Game
Jul 31st 2012
3
      I really liked it on first view, through 4 it has only improved
Jul 31st 2012
4
      RULES OF THE GAME is in my top 5
Aug 02nd 2012
35
           I had the pleasure of seeing it for the first time yesterday...
Aug 02nd 2012
37
                Word
Aug 03rd 2012
61
                     RE: Word
Aug 03rd 2012
65
                          I remember that side-by-side comparison
Aug 03rd 2012
76
SO FUCKING HYPED.
Aug 01st 2012
5
RE: SO FUCKING HYPED.
Aug 01st 2012
7
Word has it Vertigo bumps Citizen Kane.
Aug 01st 2012
8
Unveiling starts @ 1:30 pm EST
Aug 01st 2012
6
I can't wait to see the list!
Aug 01st 2012
9
I have a feeling Scorsese will sneak on to the critics list this time
Aug 01st 2012
10
Film Stage posts Critics and Directors lists
Aug 01st 2012
11
RE: Film Stage posts Critics and Directors lists
Aug 01st 2012
12
Everyone's reporting Taxi Driver; Raging Bull not in Top 50
Aug 01st 2012
13
      It's like none of them ever even saw Grown Ups.
Aug 01st 2012
14
           and where is BLADES OF GLORY?
Aug 02nd 2012
36
I still think Late Spring > Tokyo Story
Aug 01st 2012
21
      agreed
Aug 01st 2012
24
           which 4 or 5?
Aug 02nd 2012
28
                if I was starting out
Aug 02nd 2012
29
                thanks to both of you
Aug 06th 2012
118
                My recommendations to start with
Aug 02nd 2012
32
Anyone else surprised The Godfather dropped off the list?
Aug 01st 2012
15
I can only assume it was vote-splitting
Aug 01st 2012
23
      Yup, I just read that it would have come in 7th w/ the 2002 rules...
Aug 02nd 2012
31
scholar back at In The Mood For Love and
Aug 01st 2012
16
King Friday wept
Aug 01st 2012
17
haha
Aug 03rd 2012
58
Maybe we'll get Vertigo on bluray
Aug 01st 2012
18
Vertigo in HD (2012)
Aug 01st 2012
19
I'm pretty sure it's already in the works...
Aug 01st 2012
20
      daaaaaammmmnnn; time to save up n/m
Aug 01st 2012
22
surprises
Aug 01st 2012
25
Comedy in general is down and out. Sad, really.
Aug 01st 2012
27
City Lights should at LEAST be top 20.
Aug 02nd 2012
30
A very good question
Aug 03rd 2012
67
The individual director ballots are always interesting
Aug 01st 2012
26
Anyone know Man With A Movie Camera?
Aug 02nd 2012
33
early Soviet film
Aug 02nd 2012
38
I put it on my call list...
Aug 04th 2012
92
Ever think they intentionally vote against KANE just for press?
Aug 02nd 2012
34
nope
Aug 02nd 2012
39
      I should rephrase
Aug 03rd 2012
64
man, i really don't watch movies....lol
Aug 02nd 2012
40
How many of the top 50 have you seen?
Aug 02nd 2012
41
RE: How many of the top 50 have you seen?
Aug 02nd 2012
42
35
Aug 02nd 2012
43
Can you give some thoughts on a few?
Aug 02nd 2012
44
RE: Can you give some thoughts on a few?
Aug 03rd 2012
46
      a 2nd perspective
Aug 03rd 2012
51
      RE: a 2nd perspective
Aug 03rd 2012
56
           points taken
Aug 07th 2012
128
      To speak on L'AVVENTURA and UGETSU
Aug 03rd 2012
69
           and as someone who is not an Antonioni fan...
Aug 04th 2012
94
Categorized
Aug 03rd 2012
47
zero
Aug 03rd 2012
45
this is actually really impressive
Aug 03rd 2012
48
I was gonna say the same thing
Aug 03rd 2012
50
honestly, i dont remember watching it all
Aug 03rd 2012
54
Since you like action/comedies, you might want to check out
Aug 03rd 2012
59
      thank u for that
Aug 03rd 2012
71
all of them
Aug 03rd 2012
49
17
Aug 03rd 2012
52
I've seen 30. Pleasantly surprised that Mirror is the highest
Aug 03rd 2012
53
see Playtime big or don't see it at all
Aug 03rd 2012
72
32
Aug 03rd 2012
55
25
Aug 03rd 2012
57
A lowly 16 for me.
Aug 03rd 2012
63
I've seen 24. Ask about a particular one if you want to know more.
Aug 03rd 2012
68
7
Aug 03rd 2012
83
delete
Aug 04th 2012
93
40
Aug 04th 2012
95
these 12
Aug 05th 2012
109
15
Aug 06th 2012
116
23
Aug 06th 2012
117
Only 6 :(
Aug 06th 2012
120
18; horribly under exposed to Italian and Japanese cinema
Aug 06th 2012
126
26
Aug 14th 2012
155
2 official critic ballots
Aug 03rd 2012
60
5 more critics' ballots
Aug 04th 2012
100
AV Cub has a fantastic essay on the list. (SWIPE)
Aug 03rd 2012
62
My take on the S&S list
Aug 03rd 2012
66
can't say I agree with your police work here
Aug 03rd 2012
73
Ozu and Renoir
Aug 03rd 2012
78
      RE: Ozu and Renoir
Aug 03rd 2012
85
Singin In The Rain has been ahead of Taxi Driver/Psycho.
Aug 03rd 2012
74
      I think that's the difference between FAVORITE and GREATEST
Aug 03rd 2012
80
           oh...
Aug 15th 2012
159
A few director lists: Marty, FFC, Woody, Mann, QT (SWIPE)
Aug 03rd 2012
70
Woody's is the least surprising list on the planet, lol.
Aug 03rd 2012
75
It's 'Art House 101' stuff - unimaginative but great picks nonetheless
Aug 04th 2012
88
I dont like any of those
Aug 03rd 2012
77
RE: A few director lists: Marty, FFC, Woody, Mann, QT (SWIPE)
Aug 03rd 2012
81
RE: A few director lists: Marty, FFC, Woody, Mann, QT (SWIPE)
Aug 04th 2012
89
      RE: A few director lists: Marty, FFC, Woody, Mann, QT (SWIPE)
Aug 04th 2012
91
           RE: A few director lists: Marty, FFC, Woody, Mann, QT (SWIPE)
Aug 04th 2012
102
                RE: A few director lists: Marty, FFC, Woody, Mann, QT (SWIPE)
Aug 05th 2012
108
Do you think S&S gets QT's list and is just like....
Aug 03rd 2012
82
Post your 10 film OKP ballot below:
Aug 03rd 2012
79
Is that a 1-film-per-director list?
Aug 04th 2012
96
Nope, I didn't have that rule in mind
Aug 04th 2012
97
      Why did you call your list "director's ballot?"
Aug 04th 2012
99
           Just being dumb
Aug 04th 2012
104
We need to make this a separate post, methinks.
Aug 04th 2012
101
      Start 'er up!
Aug 04th 2012
103
n/m
Aug 03rd 2012
84
http://tinyurl.com/yckjt2o
Aug 03rd 2012
86
Picture dont work, but.....you mad?
Aug 04th 2012
87
http://tinyurl.com/csrjmcp
Aug 04th 2012
90
      *Pulls in with the 3rd Generation Toyota Prius*
Aug 04th 2012
98
           http://tinyurl.com/9n77qsd
Aug 05th 2012
105
                http://makegoodcoffee.com/coffee-talk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/coffees...
Aug 05th 2012
106
How old and White are these critics
Aug 05th 2012
107
There's only been about a dozen greatest films made in the past 30 years
Aug 05th 2012
110
before we get into this discussion. can i ask
Aug 05th 2012
112
RE: before we get into this discussion. can i ask
Aug 05th 2012
114
      ok
Aug 06th 2012
124
           RE: ok
Aug 06th 2012
125
                RE: ok
Aug 08th 2012
132
                     RE: a few things:
Aug 08th 2012
135
                     RE: a few things:
Aug 08th 2012
136
                     RE: ok
Aug 09th 2012
144
                          just a few more words
Aug 09th 2012
146
                               You guys are just arguing semantics at this point...
Aug 09th 2012
147
I think of films like City of God and Children of Men
Aug 08th 2012
130
      pretty much
Aug 08th 2012
134
RE: How old and White are these critics
Aug 05th 2012
111
      RE: How old and White are these critics
Aug 05th 2012
113
      RE: How old and White are these critics
Aug 06th 2012
121
      I don't think you can count RULES OF THE GAME
Aug 05th 2012
115
           I remember it being pretty damn funny
Aug 06th 2012
119
           RE: I don't think you can count RULES OF THE GAME
Aug 06th 2012
127
*jumps off the roof in protest*
Aug 08th 2012
129
The S&S digital issues are now available for tablets...
Aug 08th 2012
131
Wesley Morris affirms that cinema existed after Godfather II...
Aug 08th 2012
138
!!!
Aug 08th 2012
139
yet a quarter of his list is from the silent era
Aug 09th 2012
140
In case anyone cares, here's numbers 51 - 100, in order,
Aug 09th 2012
141
interesting
Aug 09th 2012
142
I think I like this more than the top 50.
Aug 09th 2012
143
Thanks for taking the time to type all of that out
Aug 09th 2012
145
Peter Bogdanovich shits all over this entire endeavor. (SWIPE)
Aug 10th 2012
148
I like how he calls Mizoguchi an "Eastern director"
Aug 10th 2012
149
Sounds like someone's upset Last Picture Show didn't make it.
Aug 13th 2012
151
Wizard of Oz isn't on the list of 100.
Aug 11th 2012
150
neither is The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Aug 13th 2012
152
I really don't think this has anything to do with it:
Aug 13th 2012
153
There are better Westerns than the GB&U
Aug 14th 2012
154
      ^^^ both actual and factual ^^^
Aug 14th 2012
156
      Yup.
Aug 15th 2012
158
tied for 144th with 9 other films
Aug 16th 2012
162
ctrl+F "Who Made The Potato Salad" ...no results? don't care
Aug 15th 2012
157
846 ballots are online. You can filter as well. Not by age, though.
Aug 16th 2012
160
Age would've been a REALLY smart option.
Aug 16th 2012
165
Top 250 (voted by critics) is online
Aug 16th 2012
161
Wow, TREE OF LIFE was only 2 votes from cracking the Top 100...
Aug 16th 2012
163
RE: Wow, TREE OF LIFE was only 2 votes from cracking the Top 100...
Aug 16th 2012
167
I know your question was rhetorical, but those 2 voters' ballots
Aug 16th 2012
168
this Fowler guy
Aug 16th 2012
171
I'd consider putting Hugo near the bottom of Marty's Top 5.
Aug 16th 2012
169
bottom of top five is a non-crazy position
Aug 16th 2012
173
      Well, I'm fairly anti-Taxi Driver.
Aug 16th 2012
175
The list is exploding with crazy picks like that...
Aug 16th 2012
170
      Hold up, post the POTCIII list, lol.
Aug 16th 2012
172
           Mark Sinker. Writer. UK. Remember the name.
Aug 16th 2012
174
I see Tree of Life steadily rising
Aug 17th 2012
176
SMH @ the two votes for Zoolander. Jesus Christ.
Aug 16th 2012
164
      fuck yeah
Aug 16th 2012
166
***** Directors' Top 100 is online *****
Aug 23rd 2012
177
I think I prefer this list more.
Aug 23rd 2012
179
358 Director Ballots are online
Aug 23rd 2012
178
LMAO at "David O'Russell."
Aug 23rd 2012
180
Jeff Nichols thinks Paul Newman is in 4 of the 10 best movies ever.
Aug 24th 2012
182
Tsai Ming-Liang voted for himself
Aug 26th 2012
183
      Les Blank did, too, with Burden of Dreams.
Aug 26th 2012
184
           ha, nice
Aug 27th 2012
185
An awesome article highlighting some unusual choices:
Aug 23rd 2012
181
Iranians love Woody Allen
Aug 27th 2012
186
      Fascinating anecdotal trivia.
Aug 27th 2012
187
           his fanbase certain exceeds NY
Aug 28th 2012
188

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