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"Black folks - On: Racial Cheerleading in the Arts"


  

          

"Ooh, A black person's involved, I gotta support".

For most regular black people, as opposed to okp's, this is how they operate.

Dancing with the Stars
Bad Summer Movies, hell movies in general
Black people in an extreme sport.
Music that isn't hip hop/R&B (Tvotr, Bloc Party, Living Colour BAd Brains)
The Lion King on Broadway

To cheerlead is the default for the black mass.

For the elites (or outkasts, depending on how you look at it) they often have to walk a tight rope between, not cheering for wack shit, and not looking like a sell out (or feeling weird cause erebody got the new tyler perry/r.kelly/zane and is loving it) Most of the time they end up on some bathroom dread locks steez talkin bout how they don't eat pork and watch Soul Plane, but are up on every episode of Sex and the City.

And then you've got the anti-elite elites, who have an ironic/pathological embrace of black culture, but appreciate it at a "different" level, despite despising a lot of material that they feel insults their intelligence, or promotes the same traditional wisdom that has got us in this mess in the 1st place. They find themselves @ a cross roads when they watch a series like the Wire, and find out it's mostly a white writing staff.

Is there a 3rd way?

What do you see as the 3rd way?

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k. orr

  

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Black folks - On: Racial Cheerleading in the Arts [View all] , k_orr, Sun Jun-24-07 07:41 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Don't know, but I'm the second one, no fronting.
Jun 24th 2007
1
If it's good, it's good. If it's bad, it's bad. Period.
Jun 24th 2007
2
i like this
Jun 25th 2007
30
      i'd rather just not support crap in general.
Jun 25th 2007
31
      and thats the bottom line
Jun 26th 2007
67
      supporting crap is supporting crap, regardless of color.
Jun 25th 2007
33
money...this isn't fucking art. it's business.
Jun 25th 2007
3
RE: money...this isn't fucking art. it's business.
Jun 25th 2007
7
so the masses of black movie goers LIKED rushmore?
Jun 25th 2007
8
      What masses of white movie goers LIKED rushmore?
Jun 26th 2007
84
Do you REALLY "support" all black films?
Jun 26th 2007
83
      And why not?
Jun 27th 2007
87
      buy a ticket and go see something else...it's that simple
Jun 27th 2007
91
           RE: buy a ticket and go see something else...it's that simple
Jun 27th 2007
101
I came in here to mention TVOTR and Bloc Party
Jun 25th 2007
4
TVOTR is a perfect example.
Jun 25th 2007
28
*and* I was riding for JUMP TOMORROW
Jun 25th 2007
34
      didn't *love* Jump Tomorrow but 'Jorge' was great!
Jun 25th 2007
35
      it was one, though, that I thougth deserved cheerleading
Jun 25th 2007
41
      i love JUMP TOMORROW
Jun 25th 2007
44
I liked Bloc Party before I knew what their racial makeup was.
Jun 25th 2007
60
is there room in this discussion for Tyler Perry?
Jun 25th 2007
5
ha... basically, that's what it's ALL about.
Jun 25th 2007
6
      yup...that's what it's all about for me...black folk gettin MONEY
Jun 25th 2007
9
           do you also buy every CD made by Black people?
Jun 25th 2007
10
                black musicians experiencing some kinda drought?
Jun 25th 2007
11
                     is it anyone's fault that some of these moves are SO bad
Jun 25th 2007
12
                     you failed the moment you assumed that i do this:
Jun 25th 2007
13
                          RE: you failed the moment you assumed that i do this:
Jun 25th 2007
14
                               again... you make a lot of wrong assumptions here.
Jun 25th 2007
17
                                    in lieu of going in circles, i'll just say: i own cowboy troy's CD
Jun 25th 2007
20
                                         great.
Jun 25th 2007
21
                                              yeah, i bought that bullshit
Jun 25th 2007
22
third way = man up, like what you like, fuck the next man...
Jun 25th 2007
15
as for tyler perry, bsags got it...
Jun 25th 2007
16
and that makes them 'progressive'? LOL
Jun 25th 2007
18
      progressive = judging art on their own merits, not the next man's...
Jun 27th 2007
95
           this romantication of 'ghetto' Blacks is so bizarre.
Jun 27th 2007
96
RIGHT!!!
Jun 25th 2007
19
      because *you* make it a race thing
Jun 25th 2007
36
      No, *HE* isn't
Jun 25th 2007
38
      this is what I am referring to:
Jun 25th 2007
50
           Your "we are the world" act is tiresome, wrong, and sad.
Jun 25th 2007
55
      you don't care about white folk except to watch their shitty movies
Jun 25th 2007
45
           you and OE make this mistake all the time.
Jun 25th 2007
51
                You aren't actually making a point, like, at all.
Jun 25th 2007
53
                     it's a simple rebuttal, Mr. Strawman.
Jun 25th 2007
57
                     Exactly, what, is your point?
Jun 25th 2007
58
                          haha, okay then.
Jun 25th 2007
59
                     other ethnic whites do this?
Jun 28th 2007
106
                          Sorta. Kind complicated.
Jun 28th 2007
107
                               I dunno. like, you mentioned Irish & Italians mostly as the others
Jun 28th 2007
108
                                    That's exactly what I meant by sorta complicated.
Jun 28th 2007
109
                                         RE: That's exactly what I meant by sorta complicated.
Jun 29th 2007
111
      you didn't like Undercover Brother?
Jun 26th 2007
77
The key word Bags used was "equality."
Jun 25th 2007
23
very good point...a lot of white people enjoy "black" humor
Jun 25th 2007
24
for the record, Will Ferrel kinda embarrasses me
Jun 25th 2007
32
Speaking on behalf of all whites :)
Jun 25th 2007
25
I agree and that's what I was trying to say.
Jun 25th 2007
26
quick sidenote: Hav Plenty wasn't very good n/m
Jun 26th 2007
64
but is it the white "Tenenbaums" crowd...
Jun 26th 2007
68
Couldn't you call "Friday" the black "Clerks"
Jun 26th 2007
85
I agree with Bags + This post is sorta retarded.
Jun 25th 2007
27
these niggas is slave heads, man
Jun 25th 2007
29
this is just way off base.
Jun 25th 2007
37
      WRONG!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Jun 25th 2007
42
      RE: WRONG!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Jun 25th 2007
56
      here's the thing about about good, effective racism
Jun 26th 2007
65
      ^^^^^the truth
Jun 26th 2007
66
      ^^^SENSE
Jun 27th 2007
92
      Can't you support these films and admit their flaws?
Jun 27th 2007
94
           this is why i fucks with the soulhonkey....'tegrity & common ass sense
Jun 27th 2007
98
           ^^^COMBUSTIBLE
Jun 27th 2007
100
      As a sidenote ...
Jun 26th 2007
69
      No matter how many times you say it, they won't listen.
Jun 25th 2007
46
           it's besides the point...
Jun 25th 2007
47
           LMAO !!!! Resorting to STRAWMEN = Powerful L-dom.
Jun 25th 2007
49
lol at hip hop/r&b. in 2007 they are damn near the same thing.
Jun 25th 2007
39
I don't know if this is a third way, but
Jun 25th 2007
40
This is a good & important topic but it's already a shouting match n/m
Jun 25th 2007
43
Pretty much. *sigh* n/m
Jun 25th 2007
61
you heard that Fitzgerald quote?
Jun 26th 2007
82
be an individual
Jun 25th 2007
48
all this sexual tension is really getting me excited.
Jun 25th 2007
52
all u do is ask rhetorical questions...
Jun 25th 2007
54
This is on a tangent but..I like artists.
Jun 26th 2007
62
Why can't I just like something?
Jun 26th 2007
63
interesting side question(s): restaurants
Jun 26th 2007
70
shitty analogies aren't gonna solve anything...support black films
Jun 26th 2007
71
      DeNiro has a track record of quality.
Jun 26th 2007
72
      *sigh* playing right into his hands. nm
Jun 26th 2007
74
      i love how spike's history been rewritten in the last 5-7 years
Jun 26th 2007
75
      ha ha
Jun 26th 2007
73
These PTP pundits need to MAKE SOMETHING.
Jun 26th 2007
76
do you really think that OK Artists aren't dropping as much material
Jun 26th 2007
78
Alright, I see your point on the marketing.
Jun 26th 2007
80
      did they all really take breaks or did they have other issues
Jun 27th 2007
90
           The average rapper comes back the next year or so.
Jun 27th 2007
97
                Yeah, the ball was dropped...
Jun 27th 2007
103
I've done work. Others here have too.
Jun 26th 2007
79
      RE: I've done work. Others here have too.
Jun 26th 2007
81
           RE: I've done work. Others here have too.
Jun 27th 2007
86
                RE: I've done work. Others here have too.
Jun 27th 2007
99
                Late Edit....
Jun 27th 2007
104
                     RE: Late Edit....
Jun 29th 2007
110
I just came in to say I agree with OE & Basaglia...good night
Jun 27th 2007
88
bottom line: its entertainment.
Jun 27th 2007
89
But black people aren't allowed to entertain.
Jun 27th 2007
93
No to the music thing
Jun 27th 2007
102
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Jun 27th 2007
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