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25. "King of Bullshit? (swipe)"
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:52 AM by JungleSouljah

  

          

Jason Scott, who's well known around some parts of the internet for his "geek documentaries" (he's already down one on BBS) claims that King of Kong is better looked at as fiction than documentary. He's a bit vested in this as he's in the pre-production stages of making an arcade documentary of his own.

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000574.html

I haven't seen the film, but Scott has never seemed to be anything other than completely truthful and trustworthy. This would seem to put the film in a rather different light, although I've heard others make similar claims for Murderball, Dig!, and other biopic/morality play documentaries.


----swipeage below----
The King of Wrong
Ever since I made the fatal mistake of announcing I was working on an Arcade Documentary way before it made sense to, I've gotten a nice healthy bushel of mail from people. I appreciate a lot of it because people are stepping up and giving me contact addresses, ideas, and all the great stuff I would need when I begin that production a year or two down the line. It's way too early to discuss specifics, but I am very happy at the upside of this. Additionally, people are kind of working as a huge cluster of specialized smart agents, letting me know from all quarters about possibly relevant sites and news. If something happens that goes on in a dark room with sounds like beep and boop, I'm being appraised of it right now.

An awful lot of people, therefore, have mentioned the documentary The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters, which came out last year. The mail usually goes along the lines of "Did you know about this fantastic arcade documentary that came out? I thought it was amazing, you should see if if you haven't already."

So to all my helpful compatriots, I just want the message clear: I hate that movie. I hate it on principle. I hate it on personal, selfish grounds. I hate it on ethical grounds. I dispute its content and I despise its message. That it is being considered a modern classic grinds my teeth and riles my fists.

If you've not yet seen this blight, let me ruin it for you right now. It tells the tale of Steve Wiebe, a nice guy and happy family man, who happens to have a strong history with videogames, like many of his generation. In his case, he wishes to hold the record for the videogame Donkey Kong. Steve's nemesis towards this goal is Billy Mitchell, a rich businessman whose ego and self-aggrandizement are of olympian proportions. The record-holder of the Donkey Kong record, Billy crows his achievement. Meanwhile, Steve steadily practices his Donkey Kong and begins videotaping his games, so that he can possibly knock Billy off his throne. We are shown the political intrigue of the videogame score business, including the backroom plays, the spying, and all the conspiracies to protect Billy's record. Steve is betrayed and lambasted on all sides; questions arise as to his videogame hardware, his intent, and his skills. Billy refuses to even be in the same room as Steve, never letting him have the satisfaction of the two playing head to head on a single machine. At the huge videogame event held to allow challengers to strut their stuff, Steve achieves the world record... but wait! Billy Mitchell has sent in a dodgy videotape with questionable edits to seize Steve's victory out of his hands. Ultimately, however, Steve comes back and is victorious in his quest to beat Billy! However, at the last moments of this exciting and amazing documentary, we find out that Billy Mitchell has posted a new record on Donkey Kong, pushing Steve out one more time.

Wow, what a fascinating, intense movie dredged from reality that is, right? What an amazing flick, and people who've seen it and come to me to tell me about it all rave about how it almost plays like a big morality play and suspense novel all at once.

Yes! Yes it does. Too bad it's loaded with falsehoods. And by loaded, I mean packed, and by packed I mean like the last Japanese subway car before they have to shut down the line. I have seen both the screener and the final work of this film, and then I spent a lot of time listening to a lot of people, people who should know about the events portrayed in the flick. Here's some minor, middling issues to consider:

A core theme is that Billy Mitchell is an asshole, one who doesn't even deign to spend time in the same location as Steve Wiebe and won't even come in to eat lunch at the same table as him. In fact, Billy came in and paid for lunch.

Billy denies Steve the satisfaction of playing one-on-one on Donkey Kong. They'd played Donkey Kong one-on-one a year before the documentary was filmed at a previous championship.

It seems like Steve Wiebe finally gets a chance to top Billy and that same day, a videotape arrives and Billy tops Wiebe. Steve Wiebe already had the top spot in Donkey Kong, having achieved the record before the documentary started.

The videotape that Billy sends in has a suspicious glitch. The videotape was a copy and the original was sent in with no glitch.

Two representatives of Twin Galaxies arcade forced their way into Steve's garage and looted the machine. Two members of the same social scene as Twin Galaxies and Steve were let into his garage by his grandmother, and asked Steve for permission to photograph the circuit board.

A number of insiders constantly appraised Billy on what was going on at the competition and took suggestions from him. Multiple times, the conversations being shown from both sides are not the same conversation.

What I'm saying here is that a good percentage of what makes the documentary "good" are made up conflicts, inaccurate reporting, smoothed-over narratives that are meant to make you root for one side or hate the other, when in fact reality doesn't hold up to these allegations. The whole point of the narrative is that Steve is wronged, denied his rightful place in the record books because of internal machinations. But he had the championship for 3 years! He had played Billy one-on-one. Billy was not on this campaign to cut Steve off at the knees at every turn so to humiliate him and dismiss him, to his own aggrandizement.

(Feel free to check out this collection of statements by Walter Day, head of Twin Galaxies, which is an excellent succinct review of inaccuracy in the film. There are notable amounts of others.)

If you're going to point and laugh at a subculture, hold up real people like pelts to be sneered at and dismissed as this documentary most obviously does, why even go further and make crap up in editing? Why even be in that business?

The director, Seth Gordon, is hard at work at a screenplay for The King of Kong, which he will then sell to have a fictional movie made. Or, as I am saying, a second fictional movie, but one where he can see 100% of the profits of the picture without having to cut in any of the people whose lives he just took a galactic dump on. Let me be clear: he fucked these people. He couldn't have fucked them worse than if he strapped them across a air-hockey table and sodomized them with a Wico Command Control Joystick. He interviewed them, had them retrieve archival footage and materials going back decades, recorded them at their homes, their places of work, and at events that they put up at their own expense and time, and then he painted them in clown makeup and threw pies at them for an hour and 19 minutes.

And by doing this, he fucked me, too. Doors that were open to me and my production are slammed shut, people who would have been interviewed by me freely and happily are now rightfully suspicious, and there are places I can no longer hope to go. Maybe, just maybe after I am deep in my production and I show people footage and where I'm going with it I might get some folks to open up, but the damage is pretty goddamn severe. A documentary that rips entire groups of good-hearted people as shadowy, conniving scumbags with razor-thin morality hurts the scene being portrayed and hurts the people themselves. All this effort, just to turn reality into a faked up drama worthy of a dime store pulp. Yes, I am saying the movie is so bad that it has actually sucked my future movie into darkness as well.

When I sit with people to interview them, I always say the same thing: I never want them to regret letting me into their lives. I never want them to watch my film and feel a cold shiver of realization that they were had. Maybe they're surprised at how their context is with other interviews, or that they fit into the film in unusual ways, but to make someone's life worse for having given you the gift of their time and story... dude, that's some high-octane bitchslap. I don't play that way.

Imagine, then, how I feel when people send me link after link to this production, lauding the incredible story it tells and hoping that I can also do something as entertaining. I guarantee you, I will never be that kind of entertaining.

Ever.

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The King of Kong: Fistful of Quarters [View all] , Yogaflame, Mon Jul-16-07 04:19 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
i think i found a new sig
Jul 16th 2007
1
I want to see this.
Jul 16th 2007
2
No bullshit, THIS IS THE BEST MOVIE I'VE SEEN THIS YEAR.
Sep 20th 2007
3
^^the whole truth and nothing but^^
Jan 20th 2008
10
And is there a more pathetic character than Brian Kuh?
Jan 29th 2008
14
      "Billy says you can't watch the tape."
Jan 30th 2008
16
      No. He is the most pathetic character in the history of film.
Jan 30th 2008
20
      n/m
Jan 31st 2008
22
      The look on his face after Weebee got the Kill Screen was great
Mar 10th 2008
103
I've been meaning to see this.
Sep 20th 2007
4
Same here
Sep 20th 2007
5
.
Sep 22nd 2007
6
Great movie!
Sep 23rd 2007
7
RE: The King of Kong: Fistful of Quarters
Oct 15th 2007
8
just saw this...awesome
Dec 27th 2007
9
It's pronounced WEE-BEE, bitches!!
Jan 20th 2008
11
you know the CIA just read that
Jan 20th 2008
12
yo I saw this twice!!! man I didn't know ya'll saw this
Jan 20th 2008
13
It was a very good flick
Jan 29th 2008
15
Great great movie
Jan 30th 2008
17
great movie
Jan 30th 2008
18
that's on the dvd extra features
Jan 30th 2008
19
according to AICN.com
Jan 31st 2008
23
I don't think it was good guy bad guy
Jan 31st 2008
21
Anyone nerd out like me and troll around the Twin Galaxies forums?
Jan 31st 2008
24
I'm going to take a wild fucking guess at what got up this guy's ass
Feb 05th 2008
38
      yeah, but they totally ignored a bunch of key FACTS
Feb 05th 2008
41
           Eh, I responded under the wrong post. But your point still stands
Feb 05th 2008
47
The story in the film probably was a little too good to be true, but...
Feb 05th 2008
26
agreed.
Feb 05th 2008
27
      Coming soon-- I Bought Lunch: The Billy Mitchell Story
Feb 05th 2008
28
           The King of Wings: Beardful of Hot Sauce
Feb 05th 2008
29
           Don't you see.?So he had the MOST to lose from a comped lunch!
Feb 05th 2008
30
           you guys are missing the point, though
Feb 06th 2008
57
           but... he isn't portrayed in that scene at all, is he?
Feb 06th 2008
58
                I feel the same way. Great movie, but docu.
Feb 10th 2008
85
           ^ Great subject line, or greatest subject line?
Feb 02nd 2011
117
           He didn't buy shit he owns the fucking restaurant
Feb 05th 2008
34
RE: King of Bullshit? (swipe)
Feb 05th 2008
31
I think everyone would agree it's entertaining
Feb 05th 2008
32
      I couldn't do it in good conscience.
Feb 05th 2008
33
      Few things
Feb 05th 2008
35
      RE: Brian Kuh
Feb 05th 2008
37
      Kuh will only see a kill screen the same way he sees naked women
Feb 05th 2008
39
           Maybe, just maybe the funniest thing I've ever read
Mar 03rd 2008
93
      but the main arc of the documentary
Feb 05th 2008
44
           word on the street is that
Feb 05th 2008
48
      I know what you're saying.
Feb 05th 2008
36
right after i saw it last year, i went back and forth with some
Feb 05th 2008
42
wow...i definitely WON'T be seeing this dude's movie
Feb 06th 2008
52
      Maybe you don't get it
Feb 06th 2008
55
      HOW MANY FREE WINGS DID MITCHELL PROMISE YOU?
Feb 06th 2008
59
           now the billy mitchell fanboys are taking over okp
Feb 06th 2008
62
           Who is this 'Mitchell' you speak of?
Feb 07th 2008
64
                ^^PAWN
Feb 08th 2008
65
                     ^^ROOK
Feb 08th 2008
66
                          ^^currently wearing american flag tie and black jeans
Feb 08th 2008
68
                               ^^^ currently wearing hipster skinny jeans and retro Stones t-shirt
Feb 09th 2008
83
                                    Your boy didn't help his case in the Onion
Feb 09th 2008
84
                                         I still haven't seen the movie
Feb 10th 2008
87
                                              come on doc
Feb 11th 2008
88
                                                   I would watch it, but I'm too busy saving lives
Feb 11th 2008
89
                                                        but not too busy to post mad blog posts
Feb 14th 2008
91
      you need to do some more reading.
Feb 06th 2008
56
           Is that... hot sauce on your chin, mr. peach?
Feb 06th 2008
60
                SECRET WINGSAUCE INVASION WILL BREAK THE INTERNET
Feb 10th 2008
86
Also: Who knew you could CONTROL THE BARRELS?
Feb 05th 2008
40
there's lots of stuff like that in old games.
Feb 05th 2008
43
      up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start!
Feb 05th 2008
45
           everyone knows that one, and you know it.
Feb 05th 2008
46
                fair enough, but the barrel controlling thing honestly did blow my mind
Feb 06th 2008
61
I just watched it
Feb 05th 2008
49
im half an hour in and this is crazy inspirational
Feb 06th 2008
50
fucking incredible
Feb 06th 2008
51
Wow you must have really liked it then
Feb 09th 2008
82
amazing movie
Feb 06th 2008
53
Where can I find footage of Mr. Awesome online?
Feb 06th 2008
54
Never mind, I found it
Feb 06th 2008
63
Onion interview Billy Mitchell and the directors (link)
Feb 08th 2008
67
Billy Mitchell is a dickhead in that interview too... lol
Feb 08th 2008
69
i have no doubt they edited it to make him look bad
Feb 08th 2008
70
i want to buy some hot sauce.
Feb 08th 2008
72
his secret ingredient? children.
Feb 08th 2008
75
      A year and a half later and I still laugh
Sep 08th 2009
112
           Its funny because its plausible...LOL
Sep 08th 2009
113
by the way, watch the mr awesome video
Feb 08th 2008
73
clearly the man is a sociopath
Feb 08th 2008
74
      If I could somehow arrange to throw a barrel at him,
Feb 08th 2008
76
           pretty sure Billy knows how to control the barrels though
Feb 08th 2008
77
                Yeah, but how is he at Mappy?
Feb 08th 2008
78
Damn. That was (Mr.) Awesome
Feb 08th 2008
71
RE: The King of Kong: Fistful of Quarters
Feb 08th 2008
79
Billy Mitchell defends himself:
Feb 09th 2008
80
this was swiped in post 67
Feb 09th 2008
81
^
Feb 14th 2008
90
Entertaining doc, interested in a movie version
Feb 17th 2008
92
Seems like Billy took an uncalled for beating in this movie
Mar 03rd 2008
94
Good movie even though it's been proven to be bullshit
Mar 03rd 2008
95
It says a WHOLE LOT, lol
Mar 03rd 2008
96
      hahahahhahahah
Mar 09th 2008
100
Steve Weibe tried to regain the title two nights ago in Vegas
Mar 08th 2008
97
^^forms opinion, then watches movie
Mar 08th 2008
98
      ^^^ Reading comprehension poor
Mar 09th 2008
102
This movie is greatness
Mar 09th 2008
99
Finally saw it last night..
Mar 09th 2008
101
Great movie
Mar 10th 2008
104
RE: just watched it.
Mar 10th 2008
105
RE: never has a movie made me feel like such an asshole...
Mar 10th 2008
106
Agreed on both counts here
Mar 11th 2008
107
Dude practices Rex Kwon Do.
Feb 02nd 2011
116
Just watched this...
Aug 25th 2009
108
yeah a really fun movie to watch
Aug 25th 2009
109
if u liked this, check out "Chasing Ghosts" its about all the other
Aug 25th 2009
110
I'M READY TO GO CHUMPATIZE SOMEBODY!!!
Sep 08th 2009
111
RE: Mr. Awesome
Jul 14th 2010
114
Up, just cuz I'm late as shit watching this movie...
Feb 02nd 2011
115

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