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11. "RE: whites vs europeans"
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>Yeah I suppose it sounds a little strange. But it counts for
>me and my friends, as well as my parents and their friends
>and as far as I know the rest of my family too. Regardless
>of what our ancestors may have done or invoked.
>And I do realize that not all Europeans are like us *they
>should be though*. However I think that what you call white
>supremacy, is actually xenophobia in Europe, which of course
>can be expressed in racist reasoning and acting. I say that
>because most agression here seems to be directed at
>newcomers/immigrants, who are not frowned upon for the color
>of their skin, but more for their culture, which, according
>to lots of (in my opinion silly) people is a threat to Dutch
>culture, whatever that may be. Immigrants who already have
>been here for a while, and adopted our manners, language and
>"culture", are taking less hate. At least that's what I
>think I see.
>
>Now don't think I agree with the point of view I described
>here, but I do think it's different from white supremacist
>thinking.

Funny but I see a problem with your statements. The newcomers/immigrants aren't accepted until they intergrate into the present society BUT according to you they still catch hate. It seems obvious to me why that would be. That line of thinking is no different than what goes on in the United States. The immigrants to this country are encouraged to intergrate... meaning to adapt to the ways of the "majority". However the fact remains that one has to devalue of downplay one's original culture and philosophies in order to be accepted and even then one is truly not embraced. I don't see the difference.


>I would hardly call it an improvement. The USA's so-called
>democracy is the subject of daily ridicule and disbelief
>here. And this morning I coincidentally read a nice article
>in the newspaper about the new abstinence program by the
>Bush government. I almost started crying for what the USA is
>doing to the world, by discouraging the use of condoms or
>the pill as means of safe sex. Does Bush want everybody in
>the world to die of AIDS?

When I said improvement I didn't mean it like I personally approve. Quite to the contrary. From my vantage point it just seems like the United States has taken the philosophies of many Europeans scholars and thinkers and has built upon their previous ideas to foster the American way of life. Whether Europe collectively agrees or not... the root of the United States is European.

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whites vs europeans [View all] , MFreeman, Sun Jul-07-02 06:50 PM
 
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                               i can agree with you on 80%
Jul 14th 2002
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                               RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 15th 2002
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                                    point taken.
Jul 16th 2002
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                          RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 10th 2002
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                          RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 11th 2002
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have u been here?
Jul 08th 2002
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      RE: have u been here?
Jul 09th 2002
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           no resemblance?
Jul 10th 2002
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                RE: no resemblance?
Jul 11th 2002
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That's whay I keep saying.
Jul 08th 2002
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RE: That's whay I keep saying.
Jul 08th 2002
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So?
Jul 08th 2002
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      RE: So?
Jul 08th 2002
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      My bad....I guess I wasn't clear.
Jul 08th 2002
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           RE: someone with white skin.
Jul 08th 2002
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           I understand, and concur.
Jul 08th 2002
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                RE: I understand, and concur.
Jul 08th 2002
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                     I see why you say what you say
Jul 09th 2002
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           RE: My bad....I guess I wasn't clear.
Jul 08th 2002
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                The question cannot be answerred that easily
Jul 08th 2002
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                     RE: The question cannot be answerred that easily
Jul 08th 2002
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                          Not really...this is a bit long, bear with me.
Jul 08th 2002
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                               RE: Not really...this is a bit long, bear with me.
Jul 08th 2002
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                                    Word? well, okay.
Jul 08th 2002
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      RE: So?
Jul 08th 2002
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           LOL
Jul 08th 2002
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well
Jul 08th 2002
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...
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      u're assuming
Jul 10th 2002
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           true..
Jul 10th 2002
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                of course it's not the same
Jul 11th 2002
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                     RE: of course it's not the same
Jul 11th 2002
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                          but once again
Jul 11th 2002
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                          you are right
Jul 14th 2002
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                               i think
Jul 15th 2002
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                          also
Jul 11th 2002
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COSIGN
Jul 08th 2002
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      cosign
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           RE: cosign
Jul 10th 2002
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                ditto
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RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 08th 2002
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a point about italy
Jul 08th 2002
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RE: a point about italy
Jul 08th 2002
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and when the German
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RE: and when the German
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oh
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i think
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      ok..
Jul 09th 2002
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           thank you for saying that
Jul 12th 2002
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           RE: ok..
Jul 14th 2002
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RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 08th 2002
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but, i think,
Jul 09th 2002
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      what is
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           ps
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Let me say
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RE: Let me say
Jul 08th 2002
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      dont
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funny
Jul 10th 2002
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           RE: whites vs europeans
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                yeah...
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                     RE: yeah...
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                          You jumpin the gun
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                               hah!
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                               RE: You jumpin the gun
Jul 09th 2002
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well whad'yaknow
Jul 08th 2002
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yes
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      but
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           the us
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contrary to
Jul 08th 2002
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RE: contrary to
Jul 08th 2002
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you mean
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RE: contrary to
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      RE: contrary to
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no
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well, I'm not sure I quite get your reply, but...
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      mmm...
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      aaah, regionalism
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           RE: aaah, regionalism
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                speaking of regionalism
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                comment
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                RE: aaah, regionalism
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                     RE: aaah, regionalism
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                          RE: aaah, regionalism
Jul 11th 2002
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      did i reply to that?
Jul 09th 2002
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           my first post
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                uh huh
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RE: contrary to
A Nerd
Jul 08th 2002
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      Eurotrash
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      RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
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           RE: Eurotrash
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                and now
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                RE: and now
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                     damn
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                     RE: damn
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                     byline
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                               *choke*
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                               RE: byline
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                               My apologies
Jul 10th 2002
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                               RE: My apologies
Jul 10th 2002
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                               I've travelled through New Zealand
Jul 11th 2002
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                                    Did you even read my apology?
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                                    hey genius
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                               umm...
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                                    RE: umm...
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                               I am Maori
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                now, now
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                RE: now, now
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                RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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                RE: Eurotrash
Jul 10th 2002
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                     *edit*
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                     Yeah, I was gonna say that...
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                     much betta
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                          RE: much betta
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                     RE: *edit*
Jul 12th 2002
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                     RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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                     RE: Eurotrash
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                     RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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Jul 10th 2002
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                          RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
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                                    RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
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                                         RE: Eurotrash
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                                              RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
Jul 11th 2002
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                                                   WHY???
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                                                   RE: WHY???
A Nerd
Jul 11th 2002
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                                                   Yeah, what he said...
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                                                   RE: Eurotrash
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                                                        RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
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                                                             RE: Eurotrash
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                                                             RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
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                                                             Whatever...
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                                                             RE: Whatever...
A Nerd
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                                                             RE: Whatever...
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                                                             no
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                                                                  RE: no
A Nerd
Jul 12th 2002
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                                                                  RE: no
A Nerd
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                                                                  Two words...
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                                                                  RE: Two words...
A Nerd
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                                                                  holy jebus...
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                     this sub-discussion was
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                          RE: this sub-discussion was
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                     okay....
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                          RE: okay....
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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                          ummm...
Jul 10th 2002
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                          EXACTLY!
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                               all in good fun.
Jul 10th 2002
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                     RE: Eurotrash
Jul 11th 2002
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                          RE: Eurotrash
Jul 11th 2002
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                               RE: Eurotrash
Jul 14th 2002
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                RE: Eurotrash
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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      laughable
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      RE: laughable
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      RE: laughable
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           RE: laughable
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                RE: laughable
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                     well
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      RE: laughable
A Nerd
Jul 09th 2002
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           RE: laughable
Jul 09th 2002
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           RE: laughable
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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           And England thinks...
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           RE: laughable
Jul 10th 2002
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                RE: laughable
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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                     RE: laughable
Jul 11th 2002
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                          RE: laughable
A Nerd
Jul 11th 2002
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      What is meant by
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           RE: What is meant by
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                RE: What is meant by
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                     RE: What is meant by
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                          RE: What is meant by
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                               RE: What is meant by
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RE: whites vs europeans
A Nerd
Jul 08th 2002
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hey hey hey
Jul 08th 2002
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RE: hey hey hey
A Nerd
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RE: hey hey hey
Jul 09th 2002
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      RE: hey hey hey
Jul 09th 2002
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      RE: hey hey hey
Jul 09th 2002
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           RE: hey hey hey
Jul 09th 2002
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                RE: hey hey hey
Jul 09th 2002
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                no
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                     please elaborate
Jul 10th 2002
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                          well
Jul 11th 2002
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Yes they are.
Jul 09th 2002
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my entire post summarized
Jul 09th 2002
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first of all
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RE: first of all
Jul 09th 2002
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scoff
Jul 09th 2002
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      i have to reply..
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      RE: i have to reply..
Jul 10th 2002
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      fucking scoff at me
Jul 09th 2002
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           reactionary widget
Jul 09th 2002
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                Sorry
Jul 11th 2002
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i go away for 1 day
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RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 09th 2002
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politicians vs the people
Jul 09th 2002
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      he may be talking about soccer
Jul 09th 2002
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           hehe but you are in england now
Jul 14th 2002
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THERE IS NO WHITE RACE/ WHAT IS "WHITE"?
Jul 09th 2002
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RE: THERE IS NO WHITE RACE/ WHAT IS "WHITE"?
A Nerd
Jul 10th 2002
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      RE: THERE IS NO WHITE RACE/ WHAT IS "WHITE"?
Jul 10th 2002
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"Europeans"?
Jul 11th 2002
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RE: whites vs europeans
A Nerd
Jul 11th 2002
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RE: whites vs europeans
A Nerd
Jul 12th 2002
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      RE: whites vs europeans
A Nerd
Jul 12th 2002
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      RE: whites vs europeans
A Nerd
Jul 12th 2002
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      by the way,
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           RE: by the way,
A Nerd
Jul 12th 2002
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RE: whites vs europeans
A Nerd
Jul 12th 2002
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RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 12th 2002
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      RE: whites vs europeans
Jul 12th 2002
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      we are good people
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           RE: we are good people
Jul 14th 2002
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