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35. "Good article - now a long-ass reply"
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Okay! Diving right in....

Sci-fi makes us all look to the future - it is in my opinion one of the most poignant forms of social commentary. Many of the things sci-fi writers envision are formed into projects that scientists actually try to achieve - i.e. Georgia Tech's communicator from Star Trek (the original) where your badge is your locator and communication device. I can imagine tapping a broche on my collar bone *tweak tweak*, "Navie here - the sam-hell is going on?" (yes I will live over 200 years and will still use sam-hell)

Some things however, just aren't practical or typical - I'm not even going to get into possible - as in the government's long defunct projects on trying to develop a flying saucer - supposedly first suggested in a comic book (I ain't touchin' area 51).

Conspiracy theory:
Many sci-fi writers entertain the idea of some socio-political overlord controlling lives in the future (1984), and certainly we can see similarities in our lives today that would seem to point in that direction. I am encouraged by people who don't believe in the formation of some ominous over-powering all-seeing eye (Mos Def: "they could never really do that") but I think we don't realize that some of these threats we could be inducing - basically by our inaction toward a possible overlord (2000 election) and our willingness to forget, i.e. sleep while history is revised before we're even middle-aged. The problem of supremacy plagues current world leaders, and this is the reason the current operational policy of the US lessens its shot at longevity.

To contemplate the future - let's go back in the past. Ancient Egypt... do we know much about this society? It's mostly speculation over what we can piece together from what's remaining. One thing is certain - even through it's different ruling dynasties - the culture, the social structure, the civilian habitation - lasted a really really loooonnnng time. What societies today have a record like that?

The historical socio-political constructs that are responsible for America's current existence will basically contribute to its demise - I don't see it lasting as long as the Greco-Roman empire much less Kemet. For instance, people like to debate the issue of slavery in ancient civilizations - I'm sorry - but there is no people that will tolerate (or possibly survive) chattel slavery for thousands upon thousands of years. Granted slavery didn't go on here for thousands of years, but it has pervaded this short history. Obviously longevity doesn't come from marginalizing, brutalizing, feudalizing, or de-humanizing any portion of your population. America's new - perhaps it hasn't yet learned this lesson in the past 225+ years ... but maybe its leaders are stupid enough to think "this time we're gonna master supremacy - others before us just didn't know how to do it".

So what are the realistic socio-political factors that will contribute toward our future existence (granted of course that our current leaders don't get into a pissing contest & blow us all up):

Transpo/living space - I do not believe we'll be zipping through cyberspace - I do believe that magnetics will pervade transpo ops - afterward - electron polarization (magnetics on molecular level) - I see us in floating capsules. I do believe the US as we know it will crumble if they insist on burning oil while the rest of the world leaves us behind breathing cleaner air. NYC will live however - corporations will finally take over operations in mega cities - skyscraper cities even (these are currently in design) and will leave behind those in rural areas - the poor being pushed back out to the stix. There will be no homeless nano-styro-tempo-cribbo. They will not be allowed into the city (Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower - or hell - even Judge Dred).

Genetics - you already know how I feel - but to address the issue of a super-virus getting out - I have to respectfully hope that doesn't happen but at the same time know that it could happen any moment just like nuclear bombing.

Education - I believe we'll ultimately be educating ourselves - as education (interesting about the information "market") becomes a high demand item but only in the interests of an individuals marketability. Teachers and others in the "education industry" will be top dog. The only way a "market" of information could be formed is if there is demand. If our current interest in politics and society is any indication... seems we'll be happy enough with revised history every other week or so. "Pure" information will be relegated to readin', writin' & arithmetic.

Entertainment - we will always have a human version of this - I too have seen MIT's movie-machine and it still leaves much to be desired - so do most Bruckheimer films but that's another discussion. At any rate there will always be a layman's version of entertainment - it's the nature of entertainment! People will always want to gather to hear some beats and/or rhymes. This is one thing that has survived all the dynasties - all across time - the only relative variance has been its social importance (and the fatness of the beats & rhymes).

Finally - inequality - there will be a time when class is the singular populus' divide... I think unfortunately that won't be because supremacist minds will become greater minds as the writer suggests of our former witch-hunting past.

"Internet killed the video star" - Sifl & Olly

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Black Future Month, redux. [View all] , poetx, Mon Jul-01-02 06:49 AM
 
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correction, i think it was guerilla_love
Jul 01st 2002
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i am lexm
Jul 01st 2002
2
      so i was right and wrong at the same time?
Jul 01st 2002
3
      well sht
Jul 01st 2002
4
      well, guess i'll have to read this now
Jul 16th 2002
82
RE: Black Future Month, redux.
Jul 01st 2002
5
u really
Jul 02nd 2002
13
oh no...FUCK this.
Jul 16th 2002
84
      yeah it's screwed
Jul 16th 2002
87
           lol
Jul 16th 2002
92
In the future
Jul 01st 2002
6
I think for sure
Jul 01st 2002
7
yep. in non-exploitative means
Jul 08th 2002
40
thanx, y'all, love y'all.
Jul 01st 2002
8
Gracias
Jul 02nd 2002
14
excerpt from the original column:
Jul 01st 2002
9
as far as the arts...
Jul 01st 2002
10
Good shit.
Jul 01st 2002
11
here's what i've been thinkin about
Jul 02nd 2002
12
whatcha thinkin'
Jul 02nd 2002
15
catching up
Jul 02nd 2002
16
      RE: catching up
Jul 02nd 2002
19
           nondevelopments
Jul 02nd 2002
22
convenience
Jul 02nd 2002
17
I agree totally
Jul 02nd 2002
18
stairs blender and fridge
Jul 02nd 2002
20
      you are right
Jul 02nd 2002
21
           JA
Jul 02nd 2002
23
all excellent points.
Jul 02nd 2002
25
      in a lot of cases
Jul 02nd 2002
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           exactly...I guess
Jul 02nd 2002
27
                that's because the developers
Jul 02nd 2002
28
beautifully stated
Jul 16th 2002
85
      you do that, too (10 books...)
Jul 16th 2002
89
           bona fide book junkie
Jul 16th 2002
91
           we need a support group or suttin.
Jul 16th 2002
93
           FINCH!!!
Jul 16th 2002
94
y'know,
Jul 02nd 2002
24
RE: Black Future Month, redux.
Jul 02nd 2002
29
skip gates is the man.
Jul 02nd 2002
30
upperation.
Jul 02nd 2002
31
^up...what the hell happened to the board? shit.
Jul 02nd 2002
32
too bad
Jul 03rd 2002
33
long ass post by samuel r. delany
Jul 03rd 2002
34
      wow. great ideas...
Jul 03rd 2002
36
           I love Dune
Jul 08th 2002
38
                that 'fly' idea sounds original.
Jul 08th 2002
39
                     LOL!!!
Jul 08th 2002
41
up
Jul 08th 2002
37
d to tha itto. (thanks, g).
Jul 08th 2002
45
article's done.
Jul 08th 2002
42
Okay-curriculum
Jul 08th 2002
43
utamoroho was putting together
Jul 08th 2002
44
too bad
Jul 09th 2002
46
Dang!
Jul 09th 2002
47
      what we tried to do
Jul 09th 2002
48
           that would be dope.
Jul 09th 2002
49
                RE: that would be dope.
Jul 09th 2002
50
                for me, starting small
Jul 09th 2002
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                     See that's specialized to me
Jul 09th 2002
54
                          that's why
Jul 10th 2002
57
                we shd resurrect that listserve
Jul 09th 2002
51
                     no doubt.
Jul 09th 2002
53
check frederisco's post
Jul 16th 2002
86
      Thanks - I will
Jul 16th 2002
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skills co-op.
Jul 09th 2002
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I think this is necessary
Jul 09th 2002
56
yes
Jul 10th 2002
59
i remember reading
Jul 10th 2002
60
that's a great idea!
Jul 10th 2002
58
skills bartering network.
Jul 15th 2002
80
      i always wished
Jul 16th 2002
81
Self Defense
Jul 10th 2002
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our ability to stand up
Jul 10th 2002
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      LOL
Jul 10th 2002
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      what does it entail exactly?
Jul 10th 2002
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           I got an idea
Jul 10th 2002
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                You are wild....
Jul 10th 2002
66
                Yeah but
Jul 10th 2002
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                     My thing is this....
Jul 10th 2002
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                          Sure it's a crime
Jul 10th 2002
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                          One more thing ....
Jul 11th 2002
73
                i like building with you.
Jul 10th 2002
70
                     u should get that produced
Jul 11th 2002
71
                     Same here bud
Jul 11th 2002
72
ups-a-daisy
Jul 11th 2002
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yeh, i'm not ready for this one to die yet
Jul 12th 2002
75
      thanks. the article ran.
Jul 12th 2002
76
           You did a story on that?
Jul 12th 2002
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                i mentioned it in my column
Jul 12th 2002
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                     up
Jul 12th 2002
79
i'll have a real reply
Jul 16th 2002
83
ok. my thing is
Jul 16th 2002
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a step in the right direction
Jul 16th 2002
95
give thanks!
Jul 16th 2002
96
      Do we need another Different World?
Jul 16th 2002
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           don't the Wayans Bros.
Jul 16th 2002
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Damn...more like a dollar, but I cosign.
Jul 19th 2002
101
up. not me, close to Activist Platinum?
Jul 18th 2002
99
plat-i-num baby
Jul 19th 2002
100
Archive and ^^^^^
Jul 19th 2002
102

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