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58. "Mas despacio, por favor."
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mastering spanish is going to take longer than i thought. I donīt think a month here will do it. Definitely two months but a month... I dunno. If the people in my family spoke more spanish around me, that would help out but alas they are damn chombos who have to speak english all the time. Itīs funny too. When i ask them about certain words, phrases, kwk., they draw blank faces and say their spanish is bad and donīt know.

However I can understand why now. The majority of my family (on my motherīs side anyway) grew up in the Canal Zone which was officially considered American territory. People born in the Canal Zone, were granted American citizenship along with Panamanian citizenship. The schools in that area only instructed in English. Alot of older chombos Iīve met learned spanish in their teens or even older because they never needed to use it.

Now things are different. There is no more Canal Zone thus the use of English is slowly fading away. It already started fading away years ago but now it is fadng more rapidly. I have plenty of relatives who speak no English. Especially those relatives who are mixed with the cholos. The Latins here very seldomly speak english.

Anyways, Iīm beginning to actually "hear" the words now when someone speaks. ALthough, I may not know what they mean or do know what they mean but need time to mentally translate the words to english. At this point sentence structure is killing me when speaking. I just watched a movie in portuguese and had to read spanish subtitles and did so with ease. I can read pretty well but the difference in sentence structure between english and spanish is still hard for me to decipher orally. But everyday things get a little better.

The other thing is the lazy ass Panamanian tongue. bastards speak so fast because they drop off syllables and shit. I know the secret now. For the longest i was trying to figure out why people would say "Also" when they were in agreement with something. The word for "also" is "tambien." What they are saying is "īta bien" short for "estā bien" or " itīs good/okay." The "es" sound is frequently dropped off of words as carrying that "s" takes up time.
EG.
"ma tarde" for "mas tardes"- later
"dos dolas" for " dos dolares"- two dollars

But that is a rule in general to leave off syllables and words altogether. Noone here says "Buenos dias" or "Buenos tardes" or "Buenas noches." Usually youīll just get a "Bueno" or "Buena." Sometimes if you are lucky, you might get a whole "Buenos" with the "s" at the end.

Another issue is the slang. People be sayin shit that ainīt in my dictionary all the time which , of course, is to be expected. The funniest term i heard was "So Pā" = Whatīs up. Basically its " pasó" as in "Que Pasō." I thought it was pretty creative. Then there is "caerse"= to fall down which in slang terms can me "to like someone." For instance " Me cayo su amigo." Literally doesnīt make sense as it means " I fall down your friend," but in slang terms means " I like your friend." Iīve been learnign the profanity down here too like "Chucha"=fuck or "puta"=whore/prostitute.

Letīs not even get into gross chombo Spanglish. Jeez. Iīm trying to learn spanish, give me a break.

Why canīt everyone speak like those guys on those spanish tapes we had to listen too in school.

Like this:

Me llamo Juan.

**pauses for 2 seconds**

Me llamo Juan.
**************

If only... Damn real-life people.

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Panama: Mi Comentario [View all] , Solarus, Mon Aug-05-02 02:42 PM
 
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El Vuelo Largo
Aug 05th 2002
1
Aug 05th 2002
2
muy interesante...
Aug 05th 2002
3
^up
Aug 06th 2002
4
RE: Panama: Mi Comentario
Aug 06th 2002
5
where in panama?
Aug 06th 2002
6
      RE: where in panama?
Aug 07th 2002
15
           RE: where in panama?
Aug 07th 2002
19
                RE: where in panama?
Aug 07th 2002
21
                     definitely go
Aug 07th 2002
22
The Latinization of Afrikens
Aug 06th 2002
7
RE: The Latinization of Afrikens
Aug 06th 2002
9
      RE: The Latinization of Afrikens
Aug 06th 2002
10
           RE: The Latinization of Afrikens
Aug 06th 2002
11
                RE: The Latinization of Afrikens
Aug 07th 2002
14
                     RE: The Latinization of Afrikens
Aug 08th 2002
28
good stuff
Aug 06th 2002
8
RE: Panama: Mi Comentario
Aug 06th 2002
12
excuse me...
Aug 07th 2002
13
Aug 07th 2002
16
RE:no wonder
Aug 07th 2002
17
dreds
Aug 07th 2002
20
it's interesting
Aug 07th 2002
25
Aug 08th 2002
34
      straight out
Aug 09th 2002
36
RE: Panama: Mi Comentario
Aug 07th 2002
18
whats your avatar?
Aug 07th 2002
23
RE: whats your avatar?
Aug 07th 2002
24
Aug 08th 2002
26
repression everywhere...
Aug 08th 2002
27
Yes they are
Aug 08th 2002
30
Thank you
Aug 08th 2002
29
YEs
Aug 08th 2002
31
      Keep It Up
Aug 08th 2002
32
shits crazy...who knew..also
Aug 08th 2002
33
La Musica?
Aug 08th 2002
35
tipico
Aug 09th 2002
37
Are they more into Merengue?
Aug 09th 2002
38
      a LOT of reggaespanol
Aug 09th 2002
39
           RE: a LOT of reggaespanol
Aug 16th 2002
44
                RE: a LOT of reggaespanol
Sep 16th 2002
133
RE: La Musica?
Sep 16th 2002
137
Aug 10th 2002
40
Aug 12th 2002
41
Aug 16th 2002
45
El Universidad pobre de Panama
Aug 20th 2002
56
Word?..Jamaiaca has it's issues too man...
Aug 17th 2002
48
      RE: Word?..Jamaiaca has it's issues too man...
Aug 17th 2002
49
Aug 16th 2002
42
Indios
Aug 16th 2002
43
Los Indios
Aug 19th 2002
51
      RE: Los Indios
Sep 09th 2002
118
Ain't nobody forgettin' you
Aug 17th 2002
47
      figure of speech
Aug 19th 2002
52
           misconceptions........
Aug 20th 2002
54
           misconceptions II
Sep 16th 2002
132
RE: Panama: Mi Comentario
Aug 16th 2002
46
Espero que tu tengas un buen viaje!
Aug 17th 2002
50
wait....
Aug 19th 2002
53
I met
Aug 20th 2002
55
Brewster's in Panama
Aug 20th 2002
57
get music
Aug 20th 2002
59
oh yeah.
Aug 20th 2002
60
     
Aug 20th 2002
61
           one time
Aug 20th 2002
62
               
Aug 20th 2002
63
                my jaw dropped when i read that
Aug 20th 2002
66
                     mine too.
Aug 20th 2002
67
                     Yo...who went to newbirth?
Aug 20th 2002
74
                          I visited Newbirth in Atlanta
Sep 23rd 2002
145
                     they got one in portobelo
Aug 20th 2002
68
                     be glad
Aug 20th 2002
71
                          why would they do that?
Aug 20th 2002
72
                               they are
Aug 20th 2002
73
                     DAMN
Sep 23rd 2002
144
                General
Aug 20th 2002
65
RE: Mas despacio, por favor.
Aug 20th 2002
64
your guess is as
Aug 20th 2002
69
      RE: your guess is as
Aug 20th 2002
76
           Ahora
Aug 21st 2002
77
                Damm nice area
Aug 21st 2002
78
RE: Mas despacio, por favor.
Sep 09th 2002
119
how long are you there?
Aug 20th 2002
70
from July 30 to Sept 1
Aug 20th 2002
75
Hierbas y Cosas
Aug 23rd 2002
79
please god...
Aug 23rd 2002
80
Ah....sounds like Jamaica.
Aug 23rd 2002
81
      cerasse?
Aug 23rd 2002
82
           I used to think it was a sickly cactus as a kid
Aug 23rd 2002
83
                i swear
Aug 23rd 2002
84
                     Aloe
Aug 23rd 2002
85
Aug 26th 2002
86
overpasses for crossing streets
Aug 26th 2002
88
oh and the ac
Aug 26th 2002
89
Aug 26th 2002
87
of course not...
Aug 26th 2002
90
      JA has to be the most unsafe place of
Sep 10th 2002
120
           Yeah...if CAN be, but so can anywhere...you just gotta
Sep 10th 2002
122
                one we both Yankee's,
Sep 10th 2002
128
Aug 29th 2002
91
Como aprendes copoiera?
Aug 29th 2002
92
     
Aug 29th 2002
93
           cool....
Aug 30th 2002
94
                Plenty of Stickfighting
Aug 30th 2002
95
                Damn...and here I thought Fencing and Capoiera is all
Aug 30th 2002
96
                     Fencing?
Aug 30th 2002
98
                          Damn...I thought is WAS moorish.
Aug 30th 2002
100
                               When did the moors
Aug 30th 2002
101
                               LOL!!!
Aug 30th 2002
102
                                    *shakes head*
Aug 30th 2002
103
                Handblocks
Aug 30th 2002
97
                     52 handblocks
Aug 30th 2002
99
Preguntas
Sep 03rd 2002
104
Black Activism in Latin America
Sep 03rd 2002
106
un momento por favor, Una mas pregunta
Sep 03rd 2002
105
Disregard question...Uta had it covered. My bad
Sep 03rd 2002
107
Sep 05th 2002
108
Mis Aventuras en Portobelo
Sep 06th 2002
109
LOL!
Sep 06th 2002
110
      A little bit
Sep 06th 2002
111
Mis Aventuras...
Sep 09th 2002
112
the dogs
Sep 09th 2002
113
what about the WOMEN ?
Sep 09th 2002
114
he can't talk
Sep 09th 2002
115
Actually I was going to mention
Sep 09th 2002
116
      so you didnt see one fine chica,
Sep 09th 2002
117
           By those standards
Sep 10th 2002
126
                ohok,
Sep 10th 2002
127
this shit is tight...I wish u could found out more abou
Sep 10th 2002
121
how could leaving his car?
Sep 10th 2002
123
      LOL .... cutlas=machete
Sep 10th 2002
124
THANX
Sep 10th 2002
125
Mis Aventuras...
Sep 11th 2002
129
viajo con dios /Allah :)
Sep 12th 2002
130
name 5 of those ways.
Sep 16th 2002
134
      A few things (Congos in Panama specifically)
Sep 16th 2002
135
           It's like every other country I go....I see the sameXXX
Sep 16th 2002
136
^
Sep 15th 2002
131
up
Sep 20th 2002
138
I plan to finish this
Sep 20th 2002
139
      in'sh allah
Sep 20th 2002
140
           And
Sep 20th 2002
141
                there's one archived, but
Sep 23rd 2002
142
                     Do you know of anyone
Sep 23rd 2002
143
up
Sep 24th 2002
146
Yayyyyyyy were cousins
Sep 24th 2002
147
Mi Reflecciones
Sep 27th 2002
148
Gringo
Oct 01st 2002
155
Please Archive
Sep 27th 2002
149
RE: Please Archive
Sep 27th 2002
150
Please archive
Oct 01st 2002
151
Dude,
Oct 01st 2002
152
      I DID!
Oct 01st 2002
153
           she's gone
Oct 01st 2002
154
                Since when%3F
Oct 01st 2002
156

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