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94. "why sad?"
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>but what about the balochis in kenya who are mixed in even >among tribes? the pathans in zimbabwe who came before "british >imported" classes who live, and look like the shona and >ndebele? rhe ones that fought with and for the Mau Mau in >kenya? the ones who fought along side the africans against >other arab-indians in zanzibar?

you could add the fact that the Colored population in SA includes descendents of South Asian and Indonesian slaves, but in any case, what about them? i mean, you could find white people as well who intermarried in africa or fought with the anc or whatever, but what would that really say about the wages of whiteness?

and whether or not these historical antagonism was created by white elites -- i mean, divisions between the white working classes and black slaves in the US was most certain created and exacerbated by white elites, that these things are historical constructions doesn't change their status as social facts.

i think there are excellent reasons for africans to distrust south asians, and i think there are equally excellent reasons -- from indentured-labor era Trinidad to the anti-Indian calypsos of today, the social prejudices against coolies in the French Antilles, the riots in South Africa and Guyana, the expulsion from Uganda, the anti-Indian incitements in Kenya, dare i mention larme price and 9/11 -- for the distrust to be returned.


>freddy mercury was pathan, closer to afghani...but i feel
>you on that one...

i thought freddy was a parsi?


>but if everyone else's blood is tainted and fucked up as a
>group, (ignoring dissent, differences within each group like
>you did), then arent u the same by the same logic?

afairead him, he was talking about culture, not blood.

i'm not arab, persian or indo-aryan, but if someone were to say that they found my culture gross, i don't think i would trouble myself to point out that we've done <whatever>. as long as they aren't making mendacious claims of solidarity, i have no problem with it.






  

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A Question about Afrikan Thinking [View all] , Kala Akbar, Mon Apr-07-03 07:19 AM
 
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simple.
Apr 07th 2003
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RE: simple.
Apr 07th 2003
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this is gonna sound "odd"
Apr 07th 2003
5
      since I was thinking of making a similar post
Apr 07th 2003
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           i thought i did.
Apr 07th 2003
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                RE: i thought i did.
Apr 07th 2003
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                     you should inbox me a phone number.
Apr 08th 2003
32
Correct me if I am wrong
Apr 10th 2003
68
where did we go wrong?
Apr 07th 2003
2
answer:
Apr 07th 2003
3
      again, which COUNTRY in "afrika"
Apr 07th 2003
9
           dumbass question.
Apr 08th 2003
33
Which country in "Afrika"?
Apr 07th 2003
8
Allah, we've been over this ground before brotha.
Apr 07th 2003
10
      what exactly did I say I "understood"?
Apr 07th 2003
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           The reasoning, but you still didn't like sumin- I forg
Apr 07th 2003
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                yeah, I didn't like the term Africa and Afrika
Apr 07th 2003
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RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 07th 2003
11
See this is an example
Apr 07th 2003
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RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 07th 2003
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      RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 07th 2003
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      RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 07th 2003
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           RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 08th 2003
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.
Apr 07th 2003
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RE: .
Apr 07th 2003
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My response
Apr 08th 2003
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      RE: My response
Apr 08th 2003
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thumbs up to this:
Apr 08th 2003
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RE: thumbs up to this:
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      are you serious?
Apr 08th 2003
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sad
Apr 09th 2003
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      RE: sad
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      RE: sad
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           RE: sad
Apr 10th 2003
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                RE: sad
Apr 10th 2003
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                     RE: sad
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                     RE: sad
Apr 11th 2003
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                          RE: sad
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                          RE: sad
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                          RE: sad
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                               RE: sad
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                                    RE: sad
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                                         RE: sad
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                                              RE: sad
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                   RE: sad
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                        peace
Apr 11th 2003
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                          RE: why sad?
Apr 14th 2003
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                               RE: why sad?
Apr 14th 2003
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                                    RE: why sad?
Apr 14th 2003
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                                         RE: why sad?
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                                              RE: why sad?
Apr 14th 2003
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                          RE: sad
Apr 12th 2003
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                               RE: sad
Apr 14th 2003
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                          RE: sad
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                     RE: sad
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                          RE: sad
Apr 11th 2003
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                               RE: sad
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      Inclusiveness is not
Apr 11th 2003
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           RE: Inclusiveness is not
Apr 11th 2003
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                ...
Apr 12th 2003
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african discourse?
Apr 07th 2003
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RE: african discourse?
Apr 08th 2003
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      By "Afrikan"
Apr 08th 2003
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i have a question-
Apr 07th 2003
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RE: i have a question-
Apr 08th 2003
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      okay-
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 09th 2003
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only "we" share
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: only "we" share
Apr 09th 2003
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      in retrospect...
Apr 09th 2003
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           RE: in retrospect...
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           RE: in retrospect...
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           RE: in retrospect...
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           I think that is an important discussion though
Apr 09th 2003
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           KABOOM!
Apr 09th 2003
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           it's not a real continent though
Apr 09th 2003
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                RE: it's not a real continent though
Apr 10th 2003
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                RE: it's not a real continent though
Apr 10th 2003
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                     continent:....whatever man...
Apr 10th 2003
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                     no they are not
Apr 10th 2003
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                          RE: no they are not
Apr 10th 2003
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                          there is black people in eastern and northern asia too
Apr 10th 2003
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                               so what?
Apr 10th 2003
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                               you mean...
Apr 10th 2003
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                                    ...
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                                         at least you are basing it on something real (language)
Apr 10th 2003
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                                         RE: at least you are basing it on something real (langu
Apr 11th 2003
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                                              Wasting your Time
Apr 11th 2003
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                                         RE: ...
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                                              Group infighting means nothing
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                   neither does academic theorizing
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                        RE: neither does academic theorizing
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                        RE: neither does academic theorizing
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                        !
Apr 11th 2003
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                                                        RE: !
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                                                             RE: !
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                                                                  RE: !
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                                                                       adding
Apr 14th 2003
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                                                        RE: neither does academic theorizing
Apr 12th 2003
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                                                             go ahead
Apr 12th 2003
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                                                             good points
Apr 14th 2003
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                               RE: there is black people in eastern and northern asia
Apr 10th 2003
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                                    5%= empty rhetoric
Apr 10th 2003
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                                         what is real bull s is this whole "africa" stuff
Apr 10th 2003
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                                              You truly are a "Greek"
Apr 11th 2003
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                          RE: no they are not
Apr 10th 2003
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RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 12th 2003
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RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 09th 2003
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*shoots self in head*
Apr 10th 2003
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      RE: *shoots self in head*
Apr 10th 2003
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           OK haters
Apr 11th 2003
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                significant?
Apr 11th 2003
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                stop being OKignorant.
Apr 12th 2003
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                     RE: stop being OKignorant.
Apr 12th 2003
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                     challenge
Apr 12th 2003
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                          Point?
Apr 12th 2003
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                               RE: Point?
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                                    RE: Point?
Apr 14th 2003
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                                         uh...
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                                              RE: uh...
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                                              read their words and find out
Apr 14th 2003
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                                              RE: uh...
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                                                   RE: uh...
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so highly syncretized
Apr 11th 2003
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RE: so highly syncretized
Apr 12th 2003
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      you missed my point
Apr 12th 2003
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           RE: you missed my point
Apr 12th 2003
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                RE: you missed my point
Apr 12th 2003
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                It's not about WHO is "truly"
Apr 12th 2003
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                     this is slippery
Apr 12th 2003
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                          "Traditional"
Apr 14th 2003
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RE: A Question about Afrikan Thinking
Apr 13th 2003
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