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15. "Ubuntu and dialogue: historicality"
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can be possessed of the freedom and responsibility that is usually reckoned the most valuable mark of personhood (1993:56).

Furthermore, like the Ubuntu desire for consensus, this inclusivist, collectivist or communalist conception of individuality can easily derail into an oppressive collectivism or communalism. This fact has evoked various responses from African authors. For example: while he lauds the "distinctive African" inclination towards collectivism and a collective sense of responsibility, Teffo (1994a:7, 12) is quick to add that the African conception of man does not negate individuality. It merely discourages the view that the individual should take precedence over the community. In the same vein, Khoza (199 ; cf. also Prinsloo, 1995:4) challenges Ubuntu to create a balance between complete individual autonomy and homonymy, i.e. to broaden respect for the individual and purge collectivism of its negative elements.

And Ndaba points out that the collective consciousness evident in the African culture does not mean that the African subject wallows in a formless, shapeless or rudimentary collectivity... simply means that the African subjectivity develops and thrives in a relational setting provided by ongoing contact and interaction with others(1994:14)

I concur. An oppressive communalism constitutes a derailment, an abuse of Ubuntu. By contrast, true Ubuntu incorporates dialogue, i.e. it incorporates both relation and distance. It preserves the other in his otherness, in his uniqueness, without letting him slip into the distance (cf. Macquarrie,1972:110; Shutte, 1993:49, 51).

Ndaba's emphasis on the "ongoing-ness" of the contact and interaction with others on which the African subjectivity feeds, points to a final important ingredient of the "mutual exposure" prescribed by Ubuntu, viz. respecting the historicality of the other. Respecting the historicality of the other means respecting his/her dynamic nature or process nature. The flexibility of the other is well noted by Ubuntu. Or, as is sometimes claimed: "For the humanist, life is without absolutes" (Teffo, 1994a:11). An Ubuntu perception of the other is never fixed or rigidly closed,but adjustable or open-ended. It allows the other to be, to become. It acknowledges the irreducibility of the other, i.e. it never reduces the other to any specific characteristic, conduct or function. This accords with the grammar of the concept "Ubuntu" which denotes both a state of being and one of becoming. As a process of self-realization through others, it enhances the self-realization of others (cf. also Broodryk,1997a:5-7).

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Ubuntu: An African Assessment of the Religious Other [View all] , Solarus, Mon Apr-07-03 03:31 PM
 
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Ubuntu and religion
Apr 07th 2003
1
He's out from the void
Apr 08th 2003
13
Ubuntu and consensus
Apr 07th 2003
2
This is VERY potent
Apr 08th 2003
14
Ubuntu and dialogue: particularity
Apr 07th 2003
3
Ubuntu and dialogue: individuality
Apr 07th 2003
4
some thoughts... i don't understand 'cartesian' in
Apr 08th 2003
9
the elements and connections model can be seen
Apr 08th 2003
10
Solarur :individuality
Apr 09th 2003
17
      The Difference
Apr 10th 2003
18
           RE: The Difference
Apr 10th 2003
19
Glossary of Terms
Apr 07th 2003
5
Beautiful Post
Apr 08th 2003
6
I'll reply shortly
Apr 08th 2003
7
I think we should
May 01st 2003
30
excellent point (re: "who your people")
Apr 08th 2003
8
been thinking about the concepts...
Apr 08th 2003
11
been thinking about the concepts too...
Apr 11th 2003
21
RE: been thinking about the concepts...
Apr 11th 2003
22
it's been so long since u posted
Apr 08th 2003
12
had to print it out
Apr 14th 2003
24
      still haven't read, so ^
Apr 24th 2003
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           ^
Apr 30th 2003
29
Conclusion: The uniqueness of Ubuntu
Apr 09th 2003
16
i really
Apr 11th 2003
20
^
Apr 14th 2003
23
Um, unless I missed it...
Apr 24th 2003
27
archive
Apr 23rd 2003
25
up again
Apr 25th 2003
28
up...please archive. n/m
May 05th 2003
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