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13. "He's out from the void"
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However, in African tradition this
>maxim has a deeply religious meaning. The person one is to
>become "through other persons" is, ultimately, an ancestor.
>And, by the same token, these "other persons" include
>ancestors.

A former teacher of mine would say, "we should strive to become an 'enlightened ancestor'. If we consistently strive toward that, then 'enlightened ancestors' will assist us". I agree and I disagree. We will all become ancestors at some point, so might as well become "enlightened". As we strive towards that, we do receive assistance, but where that assistance is coming from is where I disagree..........on a side note, what awareness must one have to be considered "enlightened"?.....you don't have to answer, just a thought relative to what my former teacher said.

Ancestors are extended family. Dying is an
>ultimate homecoming. Not only the living must therefore
>share with and care for each other, but the living and the
>dead depend on each other (Van Niekerk, 1994:2; Ndaba,
>1994:13-14).

I would ask, what do the living and dead depend on each other for?

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Ubuntu: An African Assessment of the Religious Other [View all] , Solarus, Mon Apr-07-03 03:31 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Ubuntu and religion
Apr 07th 2003
1
Ubuntu and consensus
Apr 07th 2003
2
This is VERY potent
Apr 08th 2003
14
Ubuntu and dialogue: particularity
Apr 07th 2003
3
Ubuntu and dialogue: individuality
Apr 07th 2003
4
some thoughts... i don't understand 'cartesian' in
Apr 08th 2003
9
the elements and connections model can be seen
Apr 08th 2003
10
Solarur :individuality
Apr 09th 2003
17
      The Difference
Apr 10th 2003
18
           RE: The Difference
Apr 10th 2003
19
Ubuntu and dialogue: historicality
Apr 09th 2003
15
Glossary of Terms
Apr 07th 2003
5
Beautiful Post
Apr 08th 2003
6
I'll reply shortly
Apr 08th 2003
7
I think we should
May 01st 2003
30
excellent point (re: "who your people")
Apr 08th 2003
8
been thinking about the concepts...
Apr 08th 2003
11
been thinking about the concepts too...
Apr 11th 2003
21
RE: been thinking about the concepts...
Apr 11th 2003
22
it's been so long since u posted
Apr 08th 2003
12
had to print it out
Apr 14th 2003
24
      still haven't read, so ^
Apr 24th 2003
26
           ^
Apr 30th 2003
29
Conclusion: The uniqueness of Ubuntu
Apr 09th 2003
16
i really
Apr 11th 2003
20
^
Apr 14th 2003
23
Um, unless I missed it...
Apr 24th 2003
27
archive
Apr 23rd 2003
25
up again
Apr 25th 2003
28
up...please archive. n/m
May 05th 2003
31

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