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18. "I want to reply when I have more time..."
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But I'll be busy the next several days... If this post is still around on Monday or Tuesday, I'll reply more fully. For now:

>this is a road we need to go down first because if you say
>you believe in God then you believe in His word. If you
>have read the Bible then you know this is the only way you
>are going to learn about Him.

I've read some of the Bible (haven't read it cover to cover or anything), but I'm not convinced that it is the only place to find God's word or learn about Him. I think it is a divinely inspired book, but I definitely don't think it's a perfect interpretation of God's word - for one thing, the only version I can read is the English translation, and it's inconceivable to me that this version is the exact same in meaning and context as the original versions.

I'm willing to go thru what
>you call contradiction and the things that dont make sense.
>There is nothing contradicting about the book, it's like you
>said, " things dont make sense". They will once you get an
>understanding.

I have a book that details all the contradictions, and gives citations (and I've checked some of them). There's a lot of them. I'll pull out some of the more obvious ones when I get time.

>"He" dont put us thru anything, we put ourselves in these
>situations.

But He created everything, so He set these situations up, and allows them to happen. And a good, pious Christian woman who is attacked in the parking lot of the grocery store did not "put herself in any situation" that justified what happened. Living a pious Christian life doesn't protect you from being robbed/raped/maimed/murdered/etc.

God's way of life dont create these kinds of
>people.

Tell that to pedophiliac priests and all the others who have murdered and done so much evil in God's name.
Some of the most moral people I know are not Christian (of course, some are)... But also, some of the least moral people I know are Christian too...

Yes he could easly destroy the world but God is
>merciful, each day we are given a chance to come on His side
>instead of him destroying us, be thankful for this. But
>this is a common response, non believers cant grasp why God
>allows evil to exist you must read it for yourself. That's
>really the only way you will get it!

Interesting... I'll have to think about this.

>Quick question for you: If someone you "loved" ( in a true
>sense) repeatedly disobeyed you, what would you do?

Hard to say. I definitely wouldn't hurt them for disobeying me. I don't expect people I love to obey me (unless it's a child, which is a totally separate subject). For example, if I told my wife we don't need a new car and she goes out and buys one anyway, I'd be pretty angry and frustrated, but I wouldn't want to hurt her or cause her pain... Give me a better example, because I can't really figure out what you're getting at here...

  

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God, evil, omnipotence [View all] , McDeezNuts, Tue May-20-03 06:16 AM
 
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May 20th 2003
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May 20th 2003
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why dodge the lighting bolt?
May 22nd 2003
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      I look at the bible and paradise lost
May 23rd 2003
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           like my teacher told me...
May 23rd 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 20th 2003
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good analogy but...
May 22nd 2003
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      RE: good analogy but...
May 22nd 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
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           look forward to hearing from you
May 22nd 2003
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                RE: look forward to hearing from you
May 25th 2003
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                It's not about having it both ways
May 25th 2003
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                RE: It's not about having it both ways
May 25th 2003
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                RE: look forward to hearing from you
May 27th 2003
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                okay...
May 29th 2003
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                do you believe Christ to be the Son of God..
May 29th 2003
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                on my own terms
Jun 13th 2003
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                     RE: on my own terms
Jun 13th 2003
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                let's deal with what you think are contradications:
Jun 09th 2003
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                     RE: let's deal with what you think are contradications:
Jun 10th 2003
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                     RE: let's deal with what you think are contradications:
Jun 10th 2003
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                PS
May 29th 2003
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                     Thank you for your time
May 29th 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 20th 2003
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      why is it hard to believe
May 21st 2003
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           After the flood,
May 21st 2003
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           back up a little
May 21st 2003
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           if god is perfect
Jun 20th 2003
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He should be showing up any minute now....
May 20th 2003
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RE: He should be showing up any minute now....
May 20th 2003
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dont spend your money if it ainet bread
May 25th 2003
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and Lord knows I cant wait
May 23rd 2003
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SWEET...
May 20th 2003
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RE: SWEET...
May 20th 2003
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I disagree
Jun 20th 2003
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I think you made a few mistakes
May 21st 2003
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      RE: I think you made a few mistakes
May 21st 2003
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      RE: I think you made a few mistakes
May 21st 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
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Good points
May 21st 2003
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      RE: Good points
May 22nd 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
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Simple.
May 22nd 2003
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RE: the real question
May 25th 2003
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      "god" is not a person or thing
May 25th 2003
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      RE: the real question
May 25th 2003
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           RE: the real question
May 25th 2003
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                Taosim
Jul 17th 2003
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May 26th 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 29th 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jun 01st 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jun 01st 2003
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God is the name of the species
Jun 02nd 2003
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I wrote a long reply
Jul 07th 2003
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Up
Jun 09th 2003
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What is the definition of evil?
Jun 09th 2003
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It's hard to define evil w/o universal morality
Jun 26th 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jun 20th 2003
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He?
Jun 20th 2003
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Interesting
Jun 20th 2003
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It's all personal
Jun 20th 2003
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This is one of the reasons i don't believe
Jun 20th 2003
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I read Isaiah 45:7 which says "I form light and create.
Jun 26th 2003
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Wow - this verse helps my argument...
Jul 02nd 2003
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      God proves man thru satan
Jul 02nd 2003
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           RE: God proves man thru satan
Jul 02nd 2003
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                RE: God proves man thru satan
Jul 02nd 2003
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                     I agree about...
Jul 03rd 2003
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                          RE: I agree about...
Jul 04th 2003
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                          this my help
Jul 06th 2003
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                               RE: this my help
Jul 06th 2003
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Archive
Jul 17th 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jul 17th 2003
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Well when do you stop role playing in life???
Jul 17th 2003
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