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>This is the one that interests me the most, because I wonder
>if people ever stop to consider that maybe God is
>malevolent.
>I mean, He puts us through all the awful shit in the world:
>pain, sorrow, loss, poverty, oppression, rape, murder,
>racism, hatred, etc. If he's omnipotent, He could easily
>prevent it. But He created evil and allows it to continue to
>exist - why?

I'm not a Christian, but I'm familiar with a common answer to this question amongst many theologians.

Before the fall, humankind (adam & eve) were simply granted a free pass to paradise for eternity, without ever having to make any choices, prove their loyalty or earn such a privelege.

Upon the fall, Satan took the form of the Serpent, evil was introduced to the world through the famous apple, Adam, Eve and the future of humanity was corrupted, and human beings no longer had an automatic greenlight to eternal paradise.

This serves God purposes, because Jesus' crucifiction offers humanity an opportunity for redemption and salvation through faith, penitence and begging for forgiveness and alas, humans must 'deserve' to go to heaven in order to be sent upward.

Cool story, I like it, Milton's "Paradise Lost" is one of the best pieces of literature from the middle era of the second millenium (much better than anything in the bible *dodges lighting bolt*.

>I would never let someone I love go through that stuff if it
>was in my power to prevent it. So, how do we know he is
>inherently "good" and really loves us? How do we know that
>this life is not just one big game/experiment for God's
>amusement?
>
>Of course, one could also take the stance that God is
>neither good nor evil, neither beneficent nor malevolent,
>because He is above and beyond such concepts. That
>discussion doesn't really go anywhere though.

"If life is prison, then music is the yardtime"--Gift of Gab

"I've been a big genesis fan ... take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion," in which a singer addresses the problem of abusive political authority. This is laid down with a groove funkier and blacker than anything Prince or Michael Jackson-or any other black artist of recent years, for that matter-has come up with ... yet as danceable as the album is, it also has a stripped-down urgency that not even the overrated Bruce Springsteen can equal"--American Psycho

"I'm tryin' to read your poetry but I'm helpless like a rich man's child"--Bob Dylan

"The only thing you owe the past is wasted time"--Beck

Do yourself a favor,
Be your own savior.

Daniel Johnston

  

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God, evil, omnipotence [View all] , McDeezNuts, Tue May-20-03 06:16 AM
 
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 20th 2003
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RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 20th 2003
2
why dodge the lighting bolt?
May 22nd 2003
23
      I look at the bible and paradise lost
May 23rd 2003
29
           like my teacher told me...
May 23rd 2003
30
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 20th 2003
7
good analogy but...
May 22nd 2003
24
      RE: good analogy but...
May 22nd 2003
25
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
11
      I want to reply when I have more time...
May 21st 2003
18
           look forward to hearing from you
May 22nd 2003
22
                RE: look forward to hearing from you
May 25th 2003
33
                It's not about having it both ways
May 25th 2003
34
                RE: It's not about having it both ways
May 25th 2003
35
                RE: look forward to hearing from you
May 27th 2003
40
                okay...
May 29th 2003
41
                do you believe Christ to be the Son of God..
May 29th 2003
43
                on my own terms
Jun 13th 2003
54
                     RE: on my own terms
Jun 13th 2003
55
                let's deal with what you think are contradications:
Jun 09th 2003
51
                     RE: let's deal with what you think are contradications:
Jun 10th 2003
52
                     RE: let's deal with what you think are contradications:
Jun 10th 2003
53
                PS
May 29th 2003
42
                     Thank you for your time
May 29th 2003
44
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 20th 2003
4
      why is it hard to believe
May 21st 2003
13
           After the flood,
May 21st 2003
15
           back up a little
May 21st 2003
16
           if god is perfect
Jun 20th 2003
60
He should be showing up any minute now....
May 20th 2003
3
RE: He should be showing up any minute now....
May 20th 2003
5
dont spend your money if it ainet bread
May 25th 2003
31
and Lord knows I cant wait
May 23rd 2003
28
SWEET...
May 20th 2003
8
RE: SWEET...
May 20th 2003
9
I disagree
Jun 20th 2003
61
I think you made a few mistakes
May 21st 2003
10
      RE: I think you made a few mistakes
May 21st 2003
12
      RE: I think you made a few mistakes
May 21st 2003
19
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
14
Good points
May 21st 2003
17
      RE: Good points
May 22nd 2003
26
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
20
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 21st 2003
21
Simple.
May 22nd 2003
27
RE: the real question
May 25th 2003
32
      "god" is not a person or thing
May 25th 2003
36
      RE: the real question
May 25th 2003
37
           RE: the real question
May 25th 2003
38
                Taosim
Jul 17th 2003
75
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 26th 2003
39
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
May 29th 2003
45
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jun 01st 2003
46
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jun 01st 2003
47
God is the name of the species
Jun 02nd 2003
48
I wrote a long reply
Jul 07th 2003
73
Up
Jun 09th 2003
49
What is the definition of evil?
Jun 09th 2003
50
It's hard to define evil w/o universal morality
Jun 26th 2003
63
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jun 20th 2003
56
He?
Jun 20th 2003
57
Interesting
Jun 20th 2003
58
It's all personal
Jun 20th 2003
62
This is one of the reasons i don't believe
Jun 20th 2003
59
I read Isaiah 45:7 which says "I form light and create.
Jun 26th 2003
64
Wow - this verse helps my argument...
Jul 02nd 2003
65
      God proves man thru satan
Jul 02nd 2003
66
           RE: God proves man thru satan
Jul 02nd 2003
67
                RE: God proves man thru satan
Jul 02nd 2003
68
                     I agree about...
Jul 03rd 2003
69
                          RE: I agree about...
Jul 04th 2003
70
                          this my help
Jul 06th 2003
71
                               RE: this my help
Jul 06th 2003
72
Archive
Jul 17th 2003
74
RE: God, evil, omnipotence
Jul 17th 2003
76
Well when do you stop role playing in life???
Jul 17th 2003
77

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