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77. "RE: THE REALITY IS..."
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>well once again like i said, a throwback negro

UMMMM.....WHAT AN INTELLIGENT WAY TO START OFF A POST

focusing on
>THE PAST and noone has taken my dare YET to focus solely on
>the black community as of august 9th 2003 and when you do,
>you sidetrack and immediately start talking about "da white
>man", "da media"

FIRSTLY MY POST WAS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE LEAD POST AND NOT TO YOURS.I DIDN'T READ YOURS, NOR DO I CARE TO.THE LEAD POST WAS ABOUT HOW HIP HOP HOLDS BLACK PEOPLE BACK.I OFFERED A REBUTLE BASED ON ALL THE REFERENCES GIVEN IN THE INITIAL POST.SOME OF MY REFERENCES WERE TO DO WITH OLD SCHOOL HIP HOP BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL POST INCLUDED REFERENCES TO MELLE MEL,NWA,ICE T AND SO FORTH.

...it doesnt matter who u blame, THE BLACK
>COMMUNITY IS FUCKED UP!! we have AIDS out the ass, no
>fathers in the home, we spend our money like 8 year olds,
>our music is repulsive and immoral...these things are FACTS

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE INITIAL POST IS ABOUT HOW HIP HOP HOLDS BLACK PEOPLE BACK, NOT THE TOP 5 REASONS WHY BLACK COMMUNITY IS FUCKED UP.

>and by simply saying "da white man does it too" solves
>nothing!!! the reason why we havent fixed our problems is
>because we are too busy BLAMING folks for our own doings!!!
>VIACOM isnt making the yin yang twins buckdance for the
>camera with their gold teeth blinging while degrading the
>shit out of black women

NOPE BUT VIACOM IS PUTTING IT OUT, AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE GONNA PAY PEOPLE TO MAKE A FOOL OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY,WITHOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE, THEY GONNA DO IT.EXCUSE ME FOR QUESTIONING MEDIA OUTLETS FOR THEIR CONTENT!!!!!

...and much props to the roots, dead
>prez, badu, jill scott...but guess what, THEY AINT EATEN!!
>and when i say EATING i mean they should be RICH!!!

THE ONLY POINT I AGREE WITH YOU ON..IS THEY SHOULD BE RICH..BUT THEY'RE NOT...ASK ANY OF THE ARTISTS ABOVE HOW MUCH SUPPORT THEY GET FROM THEIR LABELS....HOW MUCH THEY GET FOR THEIR VIDEOS OR THEIR ROYALTIES.....

talib
>kweli, common, nas they get just as many spins as these
>other niggas

I BEG TO DIFFER, NAS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT PROLLY GETS ALOT OF SPINS...AND TRUST ME HIS AIRPLAY HAS DIMINISHED SINCE HE STOPPED BEEFING AND STARTED TEACHING...AND WHO U GONNA BLAME THAT ON? HIP HOP OR THE BLACK COMMUNITY???????

, the bottom line is that black folks wanna hear
>that ignorant shit, its a hard pill to swallow but its just
>the truth!!!

WHO MADE YOU THE OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON OF WHAT BLACK FOLKS WANT TO HEAR? BLACK FOLK DON'T EVEN BUY THE MAJORITY OF HIP HOP MUSIC.IT'S WHITE FOLKS.
>
>bottom line the black community is in the WORST shape its
>been in EVER!! PERIOD!! and if you honestly think that hip
>hop music/culture isnt to blame, you are in denial straight
>up.

I BELIEVE THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS IN A BAD CONDITION,BUT I DON'T THINK HIP HOP SHOULD TAKE THE BLAME FOR ALL THE FAILINGS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY......I THINK LACK OF UNITY AND LEADERSHIP ARE MORE TO BLAME....

OH YEAH..ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS IGNORANT FUCKS LIKE YOU...WHO WANT TO STAND ON A SOAPBOX AND SING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS ABOUT 'US BLACKS', TALKING ABOUT HOW IMMORAL OUR MUSIC IS AND THEN IN YOUR OPENING LINE YOU ADDRESS ME AS A THROWBACK NEGRO...CHECK YOURSELF YOU IGNORANT SON OF A WHORE BEFORE YOU EVEN CONSIDER TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS FACING THE BLACK COMMUNITY...

HOLLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks [View all] , k_orr, Wed Aug-06-03 01:43 AM
 
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we have more fun with stuff like this
Aug 06th 2003
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
Aug 06th 2003
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Old dude's just mad cause
Aug 06th 2003
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this seems like fodder for whites
Aug 06th 2003
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      this dude is buggin'
Aug 09th 2003
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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society's influence...
Aug 06th 2003
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RE: society's influence...
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
Aug 08th 2003
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kids
Aug 07th 2003
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      RE: kids
Aug 09th 2003
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The Believer
Aug 06th 2003
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well said
Aug 06th 2003
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i don't fully agree
Aug 06th 2003
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      RE: i don't fully agree
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           which is why i used the word fully
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Umm.. the same thing can be said
Aug 06th 2003
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RE: Umm.. the same thing can be said
Aug 06th 2003
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RE: Umm.. the same thing can be said
Aug 09th 2003
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who is this assclown. and how can anyone
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black prof @ CA university
Aug 06th 2003
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he's one of those
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
Aug 06th 2003
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Damn......
Aug 06th 2003
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he was too scared to confront them?
Aug 06th 2003
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yeah right
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you scared too?
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      This foo said
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RE: he was too scared to confront them?
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they're kids being kids
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      well he did what any 'activist' would do
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      kids need adult guidance
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      RE: they're kids being kids
Aug 09th 2003
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I don't fuck with these young kids today....
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      seriously
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      hahah@you scared of kids
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           yeah whatever, tough guy
Aug 07th 2003
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      gun? what gun?
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           yo these kids in NY today
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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co-sign - im one of 'em
Aug 06th 2003
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I listened to PE too
Aug 07th 2003
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This guy is a prof?
Aug 06th 2003
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this corny one
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      he should stick to linguistics
Aug 06th 2003
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Come on, rap music?
Aug 06th 2003
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RE: Come on, rap music?
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a good question though:
Aug 06th 2003
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keyword though
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hence my question
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      im with you
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      i agree with this
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           what 'revolution'..?
Aug 07th 2003
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don't we criticize hip-hop all the time?
Aug 06th 2003
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      i've seen some
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           read the Boondocks sometime
Aug 07th 2003
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                thanks. maybe i'll try that.
Aug 07th 2003
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                     yeah, maybe you should
Aug 08th 2003
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                          you're arguing with yourself
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                               more like arguing with a brick wall
Aug 08th 2003
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                                    again, that would be with yourself
Aug 10th 2003
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                                         yadda yadda yadda
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'You are straight-up whiter than the WHITEST white man!
Aug 06th 2003
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please
Aug 06th 2003
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ha - that DOES sound like something out of CB4!
Aug 07th 2003
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if hip-hop activists
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So Hip-Hop Elevates Blacks?
Aug 07th 2003
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the whole topic is ignant
Aug 07th 2003
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Just think ...
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and there's something wrong with that?
Aug 08th 2003
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      I think music period
Aug 09th 2003
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           this speaks to our ignorance.
Aug 09th 2003
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                co-sign to the fullest...
Aug 11th 2003
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                     He hasn't done any controlled studies
Aug 11th 2003
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YOU KNOW WHATS FUNNY!?!?
Aug 09th 2003
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I usually like McWhorter's stuff but I wasn't feelin th
Aug 09th 2003
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THE REALITY IS...
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RE: THE REALITY IS...
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      RE: THE REALITY IS...
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Cop killer is a HEAVY METAL song
Aug 09th 2003
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this is a good article
Aug 09th 2003
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RE: this is a good article
Aug 11th 2003
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