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54. "So Hip-Hop Elevates Blacks?"
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Or is it benign - neither elevating or holding back - and is merely a form of entertainment?

People mention metal/ozzy osborne/punk rock/etc - sure, just like Hip-Hop those musics are anti-establishment in their own way.

But do people merely listen to it - or do they try to emmulate the music in a cultural fashion that is detrimental to their lives?

I think that's the question to ask when trying to determine if any form of music is truly detrimental.

In my college days, I used to work security at Rock Concerts for extra cash, - some of the people I tossed out of the venues were Redneck Bikers/Drug Dealers/General Miscreants - some of the people I tossed out were Doctors/Teachers/Fathers

I don't think any of them can blame their actions/lifestyles, be they positive or negative on the band they paid to see live.

Can the same be said for Hip-Hop?

That it has absolutely no effect, positive or negative on our nation's youth?

When I ask this question - I'm not talking about Suburban White Kids - I grew up around those kids, went to college with them and live around them now - and they listen to 50 on their way accross the bridge to work on Wall St.

Not worried about them.

I'm wondering about the Black Kids - are Black kids picking up a 50 cent record and deciding they should be gangsters instead of engineers?

If yes - then the author has a point, if no, then he doesn't.

Regardless, that's the question that should really be asked.

As opposed to the bristling at the idea that someone had the nerve to make general statements about Hip-Hop being detrimental to Blacks - as opposed to just dissing say "MC X" and saying he's spreading ignorance/materialism/has too many hootchie girls in his videos, that while you're drooling over them, still find them ignorant - LOL



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How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks [View all] , k_orr, Wed Aug-06-03 01:43 AM
 
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we have more fun with stuff like this
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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Old dude's just mad cause
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this seems like fodder for whites
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      this dude is buggin'
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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society's influence...
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RE: society's influence...
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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kids
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      RE: kids
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The Believer
Aug 06th 2003
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well said
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i don't fully agree
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      RE: i don't fully agree
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           which is why i used the word fully
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Umm.. the same thing can be said
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RE: Umm.. the same thing can be said
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RE: Umm.. the same thing can be said
Aug 09th 2003
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who is this assclown. and how can anyone
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black prof @ CA university
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he's one of those
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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Damn......
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he was too scared to confront them?
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yeah right
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you scared too?
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      This foo said
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RE: he was too scared to confront them?
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they're kids being kids
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      well he did what any 'activist' would do
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      kids need adult guidance
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      RE: they're kids being kids
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I don't fuck with these young kids today....
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      seriously
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      hahah@you scared of kids
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           yeah whatever, tough guy
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      gun? what gun?
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           yo these kids in NY today
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RE: How Hip Hop Holds Back Blacks
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co-sign - im one of 'em
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I listened to PE too
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This guy is a prof?
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this corny one
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      he should stick to linguistics
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Come on, rap music?
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RE: Come on, rap music?
Aug 09th 2003
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a good question though:
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keyword though
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hence my question
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      im with you
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      i agree with this
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           what 'revolution'..?
Aug 07th 2003
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don't we criticize hip-hop all the time?
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      i've seen some
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           read the Boondocks sometime
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                thanks. maybe i'll try that.
Aug 07th 2003
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                     yeah, maybe you should
Aug 08th 2003
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                          you're arguing with yourself
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                               more like arguing with a brick wall
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                                    again, that would be with yourself
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                                         yadda yadda yadda
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'You are straight-up whiter than the WHITEST white man!
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please
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ha - that DOES sound like something out of CB4!
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if hip-hop activists
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the whole topic is ignant
Aug 07th 2003
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Just think ...
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and there's something wrong with that?
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      I think music period
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           this speaks to our ignorance.
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                co-sign to the fullest...
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                     He hasn't done any controlled studies
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YOU KNOW WHATS FUNNY!?!?
Aug 09th 2003
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I usually like McWhorter's stuff but I wasn't feelin th
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THE REALITY IS...
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RE: THE REALITY IS...
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      RE: THE REALITY IS...
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      RE: THE REALITY IS...
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Cop killer is a HEAVY METAL song
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this is a good article
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RE: this is a good article
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