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32. "RE: biological race is not real"
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In what way are traditions largely invented? How is culture invented like race was invented? Aren't all concepts invented, but they all reflect/describe the reality in some way. Some better than others.

I would agree that apart from empirical concepts such as pain, hunger and thirst, most concepts are invented.

So how shall one view the diversity of humanity?
What i like about using ethnicity as a guidance to viewing the world's diversity is because then I am norwegian rather than White, and my friend is a somali rather than Black.

This is exactly my point. Blackness as a tool is not very useful for understanding Black cultures where there are no White people. See my above post.

Instead it encourages the understanding of someone's identity ("he is somali") to a greater extent than what's the case with more generalized groups ("he is black").

Sure, but there arent many Africans in the US (this is where I get shot down I think) most people are descendants from slaves, bought over by white people. Here Black assumes a different significance, as it has a whole set of economic, historical cultural and political meanings that it would lack in a country full of black people (eg Somalia). Even in those countries I would still say black was a valid term when discussing relations between white Africans and Black Africans, for similar reasons as it is valid to discuss Black Americans.

Perhaps it wont transcend so easily, what i am saying and the way i see it, since norwegian culture doesn't have the use of black/white as you do in usa. (because of your history)

I suspect that Norway has its fair share of racists (correct me if I am wrong). Anyway, any Black people in Norway have only arrived there relatively recently (again, correct me if I am not right), meaning that the effects of the battles of blacks to fight for recognition in other countries had already spread to the socially accepting climate of Norway (see the last two brackets).

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biological race is not real [View all] , ricky_BUTLER, Wed Oct-15-03 05:51 PM
 
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RE: biological race is not real
Oct 15th 2003
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what school?
Oct 15th 2003
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RE: what school?
Oct 15th 2003
4
Not exactly true (to play Devil's advocate)
Oct 17th 2003
24
      careful now
Oct 19th 2003
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      That's not what he's saying
Oct 28th 2003
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      RE: Not exactly true (to play Devil's advocate)
Oct 28th 2003
48
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 15th 2003
3
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 16th 2003
8
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 16th 2003
11
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 20th 2003
31
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 16th 2003
12
     
currently a sociology major
Oct 16th 2003
9
half-truths
Oct 15th 2003
5
we are out of late passes
Oct 15th 2003
6
Weird
Oct 16th 2003
7
To play devil's advocate ...
Oct 16th 2003
10
RE: To play devil's advocate ...
Oct 16th 2003
13
      Yeah,
Oct 16th 2003
15
           RE: Yeah,
Oct 16th 2003
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                check this out. . .
Oct 16th 2003
20
                Interesting
Oct 29th 2003
51
                Race can be traced in DNA, quite easily ...
Oct 17th 2003
22
RE: Race = Phenotype
Oct 16th 2003
14
RE: Race = Phenotype
Oct 16th 2003
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      Are you the poet?
Oct 28th 2003
44
Thats what JEWS want you to believe
Oct 16th 2003
18
What is with your fixation with Jews?
Oct 16th 2003
19
      They control the media
Oct 17th 2003
23
           You're Right
Oct 19th 2003
25
                thats funny.......
Oct 19th 2003
29
                     RE: thats funny.......
Oct 20th 2003
36
                          Thats what i been tryna tell these cats!
Oct 23rd 2003
37
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 17th 2003
21
A better way to state your propostion is...
Oct 19th 2003
26
Because race is biological
Oct 19th 2003
27
It is not "race specific."
Oct 20th 2003
33
well...
Oct 20th 2003
34
pbs says so too!
Oct 19th 2003
28
agreed but
Oct 28th 2003
42
Although it's so obvious, a lot of people dont know thi
Oct 20th 2003
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RE: biological race is not real
Oct 27th 2003
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For the simple reason that
Oct 28th 2003
39
subspecies and genetic drift:
Oct 28th 2003
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RE: subspecies and genetic drift:
Oct 28th 2003
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this just in
Oct 28th 2003
45
To some this conversation up
Oct 28th 2003
46
RE: To some this conversation up
Oct 28th 2003
50
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 28th 2003
47
RE: biological race is not real
Oct 28th 2003
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