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13. "Yes they fit that description of imperialism"
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Ever heard of Genghis Khan? Surely you've heard tell of him and the Mongol Empire he created. If you want to look this stuff up, wikipedia is a pretty good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongols#History

"Though few in number (approximately 200,000 people at the height of their empire), Mongols were important in world history. Under the leadership of Genghis Khan, the Mongols created the largest land empire in world history, ruling 13.8 million square miles and more than 100 million people. At their height, they controlled most of China, Korea, Afghanistan , Georgia , Armenia, Russia, and Hungary, and the lands between."

>Also, are saying that those that you
>have chosen to name are the initiators
>of imperialism? If so, please provide
>some type of verifiable data to help me
>understand, I'm really intrigued by this
>subject matter...Peace

That too: "Asia, Russia, and the Middle East were either declining kingdoms, or divided city states. , the Mongols exploited this power vacuum and linked all of these areas into a mutually supporting trade network."

- and they were pretty brutal in going about it: :

1200, Northern China - Unknown number killed
1215, Yanjing China (today Beijing) - Unknown number killed
1221, Nishapur, Persia - ~1.7 million killed in assault
1221, Merv, Persia - ~1.3 million killed in assault
1221, Meru Chahjan, Persia - ~1.3 million killed in assault
1221, Rayy, Persia - ~1.6 million killed in assault
1226, Tangut Campaign - Gengis Khan launches war against the northern China people of Tangut.
1258, Baghdad - ~800,000 people. Results in destruction of Abbasid dynasty
1226-1266 (re-check dates) - ~18 million reported killed in conquest of northern Chinese territory. This number estimated by Kublai Khan himself.

- pretty nasty stuff for some non-Europeans, huh? You can look up the rest yourself if you want.

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Do you blame Europeans for Imperialism? [View all] , cantball, Fri Jun-24-11 07:35 AM
 
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RE: Do you blame Europeans for Imperialism?
Oct 26th 2003
1
Capitalism is a subsidiary of Imperialism...
Oct 26th 2003
7
      RE: Capitalism is a subsidiary of Imperialism...
Oct 26th 2003
14
to blame it on culture
Oct 26th 2003
2
yup...
Oct 26th 2003
3
RE: to blame it on culture
Oct 26th 2003
4
not really...
Oct 26th 2003
5
RE: not really...
Oct 26th 2003
6
Depends on your definition of culture I guess.
Oct 28th 2003
45
RE: to blame it on culture
Oct 28th 2003
44
Yes its the european...
Oct 26th 2003
8
Arabs, Mongols, Aztecs, Zulus, etc...
Oct 26th 2003
10
      When a minority rules outside of its own...
Oct 26th 2003
11
          
                Or those nutty Japanese?
Oct 26th 2003
15
                the Japanese were belligerent war-mongerers...
Oct 27th 2003
39
                     RE: the Japanese were belligerent war-mongerers...
Oct 27th 2003
41
                          all in good time...
Oct 27th 2003
43
                Thankx for the info Black...
Oct 26th 2003
16
it's not european
Oct 26th 2003
12
It came from a basic premise
Oct 26th 2003
17
Who gave them this right?
Oct 26th 2003
18
Come on...
Oct 26th 2003
19
RE: Expansion is universal....
Oct 26th 2003
20
I think you better define 'plundering'
Oct 26th 2003
21
At no time in the history...
Oct 26th 2003
22
      RE: At no time in the history...
Oct 26th 2003
24
           RE: At no time in the history...
Oct 26th 2003
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                Also...
Oct 26th 2003
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                     I think the biggest difference
Oct 26th 2003
28
                          yeah that whole
Oct 27th 2003
36
                               I direct your attn to post 15
Oct 27th 2003
42
                               See post #46
Oct 28th 2003
47
                                    see me and *gasp* dhalgren's posts
Oct 28th 2003
49
RE: Who gave them this right?
Oct 27th 2003
40
RE: It came from a basic premise
Oct 26th 2003
23
Understood
Oct 26th 2003
25
      RE: Understood
Oct 27th 2003
33
      RE: Understood
Oct 27th 2003
34
u should read the other posts before writing this stuff
Oct 27th 2003
31
      Yeah...
Oct 27th 2003
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           I see...
Oct 27th 2003
35
Culture was a factor
Oct 27th 2003
29
I blame nature ...
Oct 27th 2003
30
One last thing
Oct 27th 2003
37
RE: One last thing
Oct 27th 2003
38
Where do Europeans come from?
Oct 28th 2003
46
      RE: Sounds like....
Oct 28th 2003
48
           RE: Sounds like....
Oct 28th 2003
53
           RE:Diop Authored that...
Oct 28th 2003
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                Yes he did
Oct 29th 2003
59
           RE: Sounds like....
Oct 28th 2003
56
                There is a clear link
Oct 29th 2003
60
You are playing into the myth of the 'Noble Savage'...
Oct 28th 2003
50
      actually...
Oct 28th 2003
51
      RE: actually...
Oct 28th 2003
52
      RE: You are playing into the myth of the 'Noble Savage'
Oct 28th 2003
54
           RE: You are playing into the myth of the 'Noble Savage'
Oct 29th 2003
65
why, why
Oct 28th 2003
55
RE: Do you blame Europeans for Imperialism?
Oct 28th 2003
57
Yes...
Oct 29th 2003
62
Here you go
Oct 29th 2003
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      RE: Here you go
Oct 29th 2003
64
      Shogun?
Oct 29th 2003
66
           RE: Shogun?
Oct 29th 2003
68
                RE: Shogun?
Oct 29th 2003
69
Totalitarian Agriculurist
Oct 29th 2003
61
i blame europeans for european imperialism
Oct 29th 2003
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