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41. "RE: Do you know how cheap Internet Connectivity is Wholesale?"
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>Say for instance that you're a Internet Hosting company and
>you're paying an "upstream provider" for access? It's pennies
>on the dollar compared to what we pay now.
>
>E.g. It is a fatuous argument to claim that paying $50 for
>Broadband service is cheap, when you consider it costs a
>fraction of that to provide it.

what are you trying to say? because companies try to make a profit we shouldnt consider any service they provide as cheap?
>
>
>The Govt. isn't going to be making a profit off of this or
>"lining its pockets"

of course they wouldnt...the govt would never raise taxes higher than needed to fund a program and move the money into a local slush fund...


>As for the US just being "First" and now we have to pay off
>old tech Investments, while others get to run wild with our
>innovations and improve upon them isn't quite correct:
>
>-Here in the US we made a lot of STUPID investments in
>infrastructure and technology that is no longer used or wasn't
>as adopted as people thought it would be. Technology that was
>being developed nearly simultaneously around the world and our
>neighbors just made better decisions.
>
>-Don't confuse the size of our economy in terms of the # of
>people and money involved with being a technological leader,
>Japan and S. Korea have been head of us in many ways since the
>80's.

and this justifies free wireless internet how?

>-A lot of the innovations of the last 10 years happened via
>people all over the world creating things and in some cases,
>the foreigners were ahead of us from Jump. For example,
>Europe's cell phone service has been ahead of ours for years
>simply because they went in a different direction due to
>having a stronger demand for cell phones than US, (less space
>for land lines).
>
>-Since our foreign neighbors produce more engineers than we
>do, we wouldn't have had our Tech Boom without those engineers
>coming to the US for school. Now a lot of those engineers
>aren't even bothering coming to the US.
>
>-We've been doing a lot of research and manufacturing overseas
>since the 80's, meaning that we've been paying foreigners to
>come up with our innovations and build our products for some
>time now.
>
>-Yes, the US innovates a lot - but the reason that other
>countries are moving ahead of us isn't due to us just paying
>for the first round of new tech, as other countries have been
>moving haead of us for nearly two decades now and in many
>cases, started the first round with us, made the same
>investments and than accelerated ahead.

and how does this relate ot funding free wireless internet?

  

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U.S. cities set up wireless networks/Cable Co. push ban..a must read [View all] , Abdurrashid, Sun May-08-05 11:46 PM
 
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RE: U.S. cities set up wireless networks/Cable Co. push ban..a must read
May 09th 2005
1
surely if the service was free
May 09th 2005
3
RE: surely if the service was free
May 09th 2005
4
      I'm struggling to understand
May 09th 2005
5
           RE: I'm struggling to understand
May 09th 2005
10
Mail's a good analogy bc market forces would leave some area unserved
May 09th 2005
7
      Exacltly.
May 25th 2005
31
What's interesting is that
May 09th 2005
2
RE: What's interesting is that
May 09th 2005
6
      I was blind
May 09th 2005
8
      How expensive do you think it is?
May 09th 2005
9
      RE: How expensive do you think it is?
May 09th 2005
11
           They're mostly a cable company, it doesn't fit their business plan
May 09th 2005
12
                RE: They're mostly a cable company, it doesn't fit their business plan
May 09th 2005
13
                     I think internet connectivity should be a public utility
May 09th 2005
14
                          RE: I think internet connectivity should be a public utility
May 09th 2005
15
                               Its just a matter of switching over like PC to MAC
May 09th 2005
16
                               RE: Its just a matter of switching over like PC to MAC
May 09th 2005
17
                                    RE: Its just a matter of switching over like PC to MAC
May 09th 2005
19
                                         RE: Its just a matter of switching over like PC to MAC
May 10th 2005
20
                                         What's your standard for "unnecessary entitlement"?
May 10th 2005
23
                                              RE: What's your standard for "unnecessary entitlement"?
May 12th 2005
27
                                         the government's move with universal phone access
May 11th 2005
25
                               RE: I think internet connectivity should be a public utility
May 09th 2005
18
                                    RE: I think internet connectivity should be a public utility
May 10th 2005
21
                                         Well if you can convince the majority of your neighbors
May 10th 2005
24
                                         RE: Well if you can convince the majority of your neighbors
May 12th 2005
28
                                              RE: Well if you can convince the majority of your neighbors
May 25th 2005
32
                                              No it doesn't
May 25th 2005
36
                                                   RE: No it doesn't
May 26th 2005
37
                                         Rural Electrification helped build this country's economy......
May 26th 2005
39
      you re a fucking moron
May 25th 2005
30
The missed question here...
May 10th 2005
22
exactly. It's just as important as roads and rails IMO. n/m
May 25th 2005
29
RE: exactly. It's just as important as roads and rails IMO. n/m
May 25th 2005
34
      I'll shed a tear for you. :oP
May 25th 2005
35
RE: The missed question here...
May 25th 2005
33
      Do you know how cheap Internet Connectivity is Wholesale?
May 26th 2005
40
          
                The Govt. investing in the nation on a tech basis.........
May 26th 2005
42
                     RE: The Govt. investing in the nation on a tech basis.........
May 30th 2005
43
!
May 11th 2005
26
Boston WiFi Summit
May 26th 2005
38

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