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32. "is this a good starting point for repatriation?"
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a good base of operations? more and more i am starting to think so. i believe that black people in america, all america's, should look towards setting up a strong base of operations in africa. marcus garvey's movement was the most successfull in numbers and the most promising for affecting real change in the african condition. solidarity.

yuck. thinking of that, what if we are psychically diseased? what if the poisons we've picked up whilst struggling to survive in this land have left us tainted like a radioactive mutant toad? what if in returning we poison the land with our 'western' me culture?

in saying that, it seems that is happening anyway, the way you have mentioned the clubs and 'hip hop' culture as being detrimental to the mindstate of native africans in the same way it's being used to subjugate us on this side. the difference is you have a buffer of african culture and a solid connection to the land that isn't so easilly eroded by a foul media wind.

the clincher would be numbers. is afro american (yuck) culture worth holding on to? will we be able to become something new? and what will it cost the environment?

liberia.

i think what happened in liberia was compounded by foreign financial interest. disputes which should have been settled by diplomacy and actual understanding were blown out of proportion by the third party of foreign cash and influence. if we could minimise that kind of situation we could come up with a better outcome than the usual petty bourgeois corrupt political dictator despot civil war destabilization free market siphoning of resources from the local ecology and economy situation. i vote we remain mindfull and vigilant to such an incursion. the kind that historically and currently exists throughout the african diaspora.

nigeria.

would you suggest ghanna over nigeria as a base of operations for repatriating africans from america?

egypt/ethiopia/kenya.

whilst there is a lot of history here, it is mainly that the accomplishments and influence of this region on europe that makes it an issue to africans in latin (north and south america/europe) speaking countries, even though the bulk of us come from west africa! i do not denigrate the achievements of the ethiopian army after world war two in the african liberation movement, however i think that gaining a greater knowledge of the history and achievement of west africans and central africans outside of areas of contact with europeans is paramount. we need to thoroughly dispel any and all myths around african cultural inferiority. so when we get there we don't think ourselves more 'civilized' or worthy of making decisions than our brothers and sisters on the continent...

starting to slip into my rhetoric, sorry. please have a good time and post pictures!

how do you think we can address the 'hip hop' invasion and it's culturally subversive doctrine?

do you think that the weight of local hip hop/music, the fact that it still has it's african soul intact will be enough to turn the tide? do you think that we could create/expand an african music industry that remains intact and in african hands, so it can't be subverted by external interests to the tune of the american music industry? how do you think we can achieve that aim?

i am planning a trip back to africa. i can only really afford it as part of a musical tour or some sort of documentary project.

have you heard of daara j? that's what i mean by africans positively influencing the industry and the artists over here. zapp mama etc.

thanks for the club list!

i have so many questions. most can only be answered when i get there myself. in the meanwhile to satisfy my souls desire to go forward to africa, for the unification of black people around the world, for an end to tribal war, and for something solid to come out of our 400 years of suffering, i will keep researching. it inspires me every time i hear of someone going forward home. thanks.

ok!

  

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So I am In Ghana... Accra... ask me anything. [View all] , AquamansWrath, Fri May-20-05 02:45 PM
 
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What are your plans while over there?
May 20th 2005
1
RE: What are your plans while over there?
May 20th 2005
2
      London?!? LOL! You don't wanna come here lol......
May 21st 2005
17
           RE: London?!? LOL! You don't wanna come here lol......
May 23rd 2005
36
Why the hell you on the internet???
May 20th 2005
3
RE: Why the hell you on the internet???
May 20th 2005
5
      wait,
Jun 07th 2005
101
           105-107
Jun 10th 2005
111
environment: describe it
May 20th 2005
4
RE: environment: describe it
May 20th 2005
6
      many don't know about african countries
May 20th 2005
8
      great question.... here's why...
May 20th 2005
9
           word.............
May 20th 2005
11
           I was just thinking about this- the effect of the "corporate"
May 20th 2005
13
           RE: I was just thinking about this- the effect of the "corporate"
May 23rd 2005
37
           tell me about the youth
May 21st 2005
21
           RE: tell me about the youth
May 23rd 2005
38
                that's what's up.
May 26th 2005
72
                     namean...
May 26th 2005
75
           "I almost cried" - aqua....NO HOMO!
May 21st 2005
27
           RE: "I almost cried" - aqua....NO HOMO!
May 23rd 2005
39
                that shits soft, we gotta be like these devils..bout MONEY!
May 25th 2005
63
                     RE: that shits soft, we gotta be like these devils..bout MONEY!
May 26th 2005
66
           beautiful....just beautiful... n/m
May 26th 2005
65
           RE: beautiful....just beautiful... n/m
May 26th 2005
67
           so you are a music producer?
Jun 01st 2005
92
                RE: so you are a music producer?
Jun 02nd 2005
100
      RE: environment: describe it
May 21st 2005
24
      RE: environment: describe it
May 23rd 2005
40
           RE: environment: describe it
May 23rd 2005
55
                RE: environment: describe it
May 24th 2005
56
      Abrantee!
May 22nd 2005
30
RE: Radio ? Shows ? Women ? Urban spiel ? Slave castles ?
May 20th 2005
7
RE: Radio ? Shows ? Women ? Urban spiel ? Slave castles ?
May 20th 2005
10
      i remember that shit like yesterday...poverty was off the chain.
May 21st 2005
26
Are you planing to go to the country?
May 20th 2005
12
you gonna stop by Dr. Clarke's shrine? n/m
May 20th 2005
14
or Du Bois' gravesite?
May 21st 2005
15
word.
May 21st 2005
19
RE: you gonna stop by Dr. Clarke's shrine? n/m
May 23rd 2005
41
      Wow... what was that like?
May 23rd 2005
53
           pretty amazing actually...
May 23rd 2005
54
Who you producing?
May 21st 2005
16
smart man...
May 23rd 2005
42
      make sure its good hip - life cos I ain't gonna lie thei is a lotta
May 26th 2005
78
           RE: make sure its good hip - life cos I ain't gonna lie thei is a lotta
May 26th 2005
81
hey your back home....enjoy man!
May 21st 2005
18
RE: hey your back home....enjoy man!
May 23rd 2005
43
RE: So I am In Ghana... Accra... ask me anything.
May 21st 2005
20
Animist?
May 21st 2005
23
traditional beliefs....
May 26th 2005
79
Ghana is mostly Christian,
May 23rd 2005
34
RE: Ghana is mostly Christian,
May 23rd 2005
45
well damn...
May 23rd 2005
44
      Ghanaian religion.
May 23rd 2005
52
Do they still offer dual citenzenship for african americans?
May 21st 2005
22
RE: Do they still offer dual citenzenship for african americans?
May 23rd 2005
46
yes they do
May 26th 2005
80
      RE: yes they do
May 26th 2005
82
im gonig to be there in july...when you leaving?
May 21st 2005
25
RE: im gonig to be there in july...when you leaving?
May 23rd 2005
47
r there any like suave_bro over there?
May 21st 2005
28
*snigger*
May 22nd 2005
29
Yes.
May 22nd 2005
31
*cries*
May 22nd 2005
33
RE: *cries*
May 23rd 2005
49
I heard it all my life
May 25th 2005
60
      RE: I heard it all my life
May 26th 2005
68
           Maybe he should differentiate
May 26th 2005
83
                RE: Maybe he should differentiate
May 27th 2005
84
pssst Obruni!
May 23rd 2005
35
      Obruni! Brafono!
May 23rd 2005
51
RE: r there any uncle toms like suave_bro over there?
May 23rd 2005
48
RE: is this a good starting point for repatriation?
May 23rd 2005
50
      Corruption
Jun 01st 2005
94
           RE: Corruption
Jun 02nd 2005
96
OK
May 25th 2005
57
RE: OK
May 25th 2005
58
      What??
May 25th 2005
59
           RE: What??
May 25th 2005
61
                RE: What??
May 26th 2005
69
                whoa....
May 26th 2005
73
                     How the US uses them... HERE"S THE ILL SHIT...
May 26th 2005
76
                          true story ^ Senegal too n/m
Jun 10th 2005
106
if you got some digital photos, i can post them up
May 25th 2005
62
RE: if you got some digital photos, i can post them up
May 26th 2005
70
would love to...
Jun 10th 2005
107
can you get the names of some reputable grass-roots NGOs...
May 26th 2005
64
RE: can you get the names of some reputable grass-roots NGOs...
May 26th 2005
71
      did you ever get the PM i sent you a while back?
Jun 10th 2005
105
           RE: did you ever get the PM i sent you a while back?
Jun 10th 2005
108
                awh man!! that sucks about the PM...
Jun 10th 2005
114
i can't think of any questions....
May 26th 2005
74
RE: i can't think of any questions....
May 26th 2005
77
      oh i'm definitely going
May 30th 2005
86
      RE: oh i'm definitely going
Jun 01st 2005
88
      *throwing head back in laughter*
Jun 01st 2005
93
      RE: *throwing head back in laughter*
Jun 02nd 2005
99
      LOL
Jun 08th 2005
102
What's Accra like?
May 29th 2005
85
RE: What's Accra like?
Jun 01st 2005
89
      Absolutely.
Jun 01st 2005
95
           RE: Absolutely.
Jun 02nd 2005
98
what the ho's like?
May 31st 2005
87
RE: what the ho's like?
Jun 01st 2005
90
      you said "Anthing at all".
Jun 01st 2005
91
           RE: you said "Anthing at all".
Jun 02nd 2005
97
Volunteers? White Volunteers?
Jun 08th 2005
103
Great question...
Jun 10th 2005
110
      Recent discussions I've had with whites
Jun 11th 2005
115
Recording Industry ?
Jun 10th 2005
104
um... not sure but...
Jun 10th 2005
109
      true...
Jun 10th 2005
112
RE: So I am In Ghana... Accra... ask me anything.
Jun 10th 2005
113
RE: So I am In Ghana... Accra... ask me anything.
Jun 11th 2005
116

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