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6. "or not."
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>Like In the Air of the Night... Phil Collins
>watching his brother's killer die by drowning and does
>nothing... damn if that doesn't change the drums coming in I
>don't know what does...

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/someair.htm

Claim: Phil Collins wrote the song In the Air Tonight after witnessing an incident in which a man refused to come to the aid of a drowning swimmer.

Status: False.

Example:


The story has to do with Phil Collins supposedly watching his close friend drown from a nearby cliff, while he stood helpless, too far away to rescue. In addition, supposedly there was a man who could have rescued the friend but just stood idly by. Then, Phil writes a song about the experience and gives the man a front row ticket to the show where he premieres the song. While Phil sings the song to him, the spotlight is on the man in the front row.

Variations: There are many variations in the details of this seemingly straightforward legend:

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The song is usually said to be a first-person account, but it is sometimes I've seen your face before, my friend reported that Collins based the song on an incident he heard about (but did not witness).

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The time lapse between Collins' witnessing the incident and his writing the song varies: he wrote the song right away, he waited several years, or he wrote the song many years later (because he was a child when the incident took place).

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The nature of the tragic incident also varies: it is most often a man standing idly by while someone else drowns (or nearly drowns), but other forms mention a deliberate drowning (i.e., murder), a rape (of Collins' wife), and Collins' catching his wife in an adulterous act.

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The victim takes on one of several identities: Collins' brother, Collins' wife (but only when the incident involves a rape), a close friend of Collins', a stranger, a rapist (whom Collins recognizes as his wife's attacker and refuses to help), and Phil Collins himself (who supposedly nearly drowned when a boat he was sailing in capsized).

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Collins himself does not aid the drowning victim himself because he is either too drunk (or stoned), too far away, or too busy soliciting help.

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In versions where Collins learns the identity of the killer/rapist (sometimes by hiring a private detective), he invites the man to an upcoming concert (sometimes specifically arranged to take place in the man's home town) or sends him tickets anonymously.

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At the subsequent concert, Collins premieres "In the Air Tonight," which he sings while a spotlight shines on the invited guest (or while he stares at the man, without the spotlight). In some variations Collins never learns the man's identity and sings the song at every concert as an anonymous accusation.

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The results of Collins' musical revelation vary: the invited stranger is humiliated (sometimes leading to a divorce or job loss), he commits suicide, or he is arrested by waiting policemen.

Origins: In the
Air Tonight (as well as most of Collins' 1981 Face Value album) deals with his bitterness and frustration over the end of his marriage to his first wife, Andrea. As Collins has repeatedly explained, the lyrics are not based on any specific real-life event.


Last updated: 12 September 2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_The_Air_Tonight

Years later, Collins commented on the legends about the song in a BBC World Service interview:

I don't know what this song is about. When I was writing this I was going through a divorce. And the only thing I can say about it is that it's obviously in anger. It's the angry side, or the bitter side of a separation. So what makes it even more comical is when I hear these stories which started many years ago, particularly in America, of someone come up to me and say, 'Did you really see someone drowning?' I said, 'No, wrong'. And then every time I go back to America the story gets Chinese whispers, it gets more and more elaborate. It's so frustrating, 'cos this is one song out of all the songs probably that I've ever written that I really don't know what it's about, you know.

  

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Macgruder the Genius Part 2. [View all] , AquamansWrath, Fri Jan-06-06 12:13 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
exposing stupidity
Jan 08th 2006
1
what u know about a springbok?
Jan 10th 2006
3
      *does the haka at his avatar*
Jan 14th 2006
45
RE: Macgruder the Genius Part 2.
Jan 10th 2006
2
Honestly, I never thought of it like that. I just laffed at the show.
Jan 10th 2006
4
      but you do now realize it's more to it than laughter?
Jan 10th 2006
5
          
           Well then Phil Collins is the liar...
Jan 10th 2006
8
                dude, just be wrong.
Jan 11th 2006
9
                     carry on the ignorance? hahahaha... um...
Jan 12th 2006
11
                     dude, just shut up and be wrong.
Jan 12th 2006
14
                          Nah cause I'm not wrong and this post isn't about Phil Collins....
Jan 12th 2006
18
                               RE: Nah cause I'm not wrong and this post isn't about Phil Collins....
Jan 17th 2006
59
                                    What?
Jan 18th 2006
60
                                         RE: What?
Jan 18th 2006
61
                     RE: dude, just be wrong.
Jan 12th 2006
15
                          exactly...
Jan 12th 2006
19
                               RE: exactly...
Jan 12th 2006
32
                                    or a boyfriend or something...
Jan 13th 2006
39
           lol. word.
Jan 10th 2006
7
                shouldn't you be downloading porn on GD?
Jan 12th 2006
12
                     was that supposed to be funny?
Jan 12th 2006
22
                          the question is is it true?
Jan 12th 2006
25
                               nah, Ive never clicked on one of 'em posts. I aint that dude.
Jan 12th 2006
26
                                    Sure.
Jan 13th 2006
33
Um... so what.
Jan 11th 2006
10
we are discussing the great art of Macgruder...
Jan 12th 2006
13
      Well, you don't have to post nonsense
Jan 12th 2006
20
           and who made you the decison maker of what is nonsense?
Jan 12th 2006
23
                Explain his "genius"... all I see it a interesting metaphor,
Jan 12th 2006
28
                okay we have your opinion on record...
Jan 13th 2006
35
                and i made myself the decision-maker of nonsense.
Jan 12th 2006
29
                     you are close minded man....
Jan 12th 2006
31
                          ya know...
Jan 13th 2006
36
You missed the first part
Jan 12th 2006
16
RE: You missed the first part
Jan 12th 2006
17
WE KNOW WHERE HE IS!
Jan 12th 2006
21
      the killer is one block away...
Jan 12th 2006
24
           may I remind you this wasn't apart of the ORIGINAL PLAN!
Jan 12th 2006
27
                a clever metaphor, but genius?
Jan 12th 2006
30
                     I invite you to revisit...
Jan 13th 2006
34
                          dude, i got all of that
Jan 13th 2006
37
                          Uhm...
Jan 13th 2006
38
                          good point...
Jan 13th 2006
41
                               Nice perspective
Jan 13th 2006
42
                          okay...
Jan 13th 2006
40
                               yeah but it wasn't funny
Jan 14th 2006
44
                          RE: I invite you to revisit...
Jan 13th 2006
43
dagnabit!
Jan 15th 2006
46
RE: dagnabit!
Jan 15th 2006
47
      ding!
Jan 15th 2006
48
           RE: ding!
Jan 15th 2006
49
RE: Macgruder the Genius Part 2.
Jan 15th 2006
50
RE: Macgruder the Genius Part 2.
Jan 17th 2006
54
      you have to be kidding me...
Jan 17th 2006
55
           RE: you have to be kidding me...
Jan 17th 2006
57
Return of the King
Jan 16th 2006
51
RE: Return of the King - VALIDATION
Jan 16th 2006
52
      RE: Return of the King - VALIDATION
Jan 17th 2006
53
      What I love about "The Boondocks" is how it sticks
Jan 17th 2006
56
           Exactly.
Jan 17th 2006
58

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