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BarTek
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Sat Dec-03-05 11:53 PM

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9. "Sigh"
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*Pats you on the back...

My understanding of racism is vastly different to yours.

I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else on this site,
you are all entitled to your opinions of me... however, I will indulge your question because I think it a fair discussion.

I know what I stand for, and I know what I fight against.

A lot of people think of me as racist, because... they simply do not know how to classify and label me. It is easier to label me, than it is to understand me. I am a scary white person... believe it, I know my roots well. I know what my skin colour represents to thousands of people around the world. I know what my skin colour means to those in power. I plan to use my skin colour as a gift. I love my skin colour. I will spend the rest of my life trying to bring tyrants, and racist war mongers to their demise. I will use my skin colour in that task. I have a certain amount of privilege sewn into my skin, and I plan to use that too. I will walk through doors, which you have to shoot your way through. All I want you to remember is, that I fight on your side.

If you think I am a bigot, racist, or the devil incarnate, it does not phase me in the slightest, as I know who I am, and what I stand for. I have total peace of mind. I have clear purpose, and I plan to manifest it.

Finally, your comment inspired anger within me, because, there was zero reference to black struggle, racism, or white people in that post. It was a discussion about mastering. You came into that post, and you made a reference to the evil white man. Your comment was negative as it painted all white people with the same stroke. I am a white person, who has just offered you the truth about my intentions and purpose in life. As harmless as you think your comment was, it was not justified. If the discussion was about white and black relations, I would not have opened my mouth. You took the role of bigot. Not I.

Place yourself in my shoes. You and your friends, both white and black, are talking about music. I walk up to you, and say... "You know, what you just said, reminds me of the struggle Iranian women are facing; the abuse, the beatings, the rape, and the lack of voice."

Was there any justification in my comment?
Was there any need?
Now, you being the only Iranian in the group, would it upset you that, as a white person, I was speaking about issues that pertain only to you? Would it upset you, that you were the only reflection of Iranian men? Would it upset you, if one of your friends gave you a funny look? Would it upset you, if you were suddenly categorized in the same way just because you are Iranian?

Now, imagine you had another discussion about motorcycles, and I once again made a comment about Iranian men abusing Iranian women.

Would it not piss you off that I constantly spoke about the brute Iranian man, when there was absolutley no justification or relevance in my comment?

That is why I found your comment offensive. If there is no relevance, or justification in your comment. Than it is clear, that you were practicing racism and bigotry. If you are interested in racial harmony, why do you consistently paint the white race with such a broad stroke, when you are not even black? why do you consistently speak from the position of a black man, and his experiences, when you are not black? Yes, a cross may have burned on your lawn, but once again.. Was anyone in your family accused of rape by a white women? Please answer my question.

Furthermore, you made this post seeking a third party opinion. Is it because you doubt your argument? You have only pushed this argument in my favor. You wished death upon someone in my family from a suicide bomber, when there was absolutley no reference to that. You said you grew up in Texas... has anyone in your family died to a suicide bomber? One of my closest friends is from the Gaza Strip, she is a woman as well. She has seen and experienced things that your Iranian background has no comprehension of. She would never wish death on anyone from a suicide bomber, even though she lost many of her people under oppressive forces.

Peace

  

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White liberal bigotry [View all] , Pinko_Panther, Sat Dec-03-05 08:20 AM
 
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quick answer: no...
Dec 03rd 2005
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RE: quick answer: no...
Dec 03rd 2005
2
      get the fuck outta here...
Dec 06th 2005
48
It's a simple answer really
Dec 03rd 2005
3
*dead*
Dec 04th 2005
12
      haha...this is three agreements in one week!
Dec 04th 2005
17
           Three?! WOWZERS!
Dec 04th 2005
18
                ok..maybe two...
Dec 04th 2005
22
Sorry Pinko, but this reads like little more than a cheap stunt
Dec 03rd 2005
4
Kind of agree
Dec 03rd 2005
5
Of course I'm trying to get support, how dense must you be?
Dec 04th 2005
11
      RE: Of course I'm trying to get support, how dense must you be?
Dec 04th 2005
16
           RE: Of course I'm trying to get support, how dense must you be?
Dec 04th 2005
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                RE: Of course I'm trying to get support, how dense must you be?
Dec 04th 2005
21
iranian = aryan
Dec 03rd 2005
6
YOU IRANIAN CRACKA!!
Dec 03rd 2005
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RE: YOU IRANIAN CRACKA!!
Dec 04th 2005
15
Yeah, Hitler got a lot of history wrong...
Dec 04th 2005
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RE: iranian = aryan
Dec 04th 2005
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      RE: iranian = aryan
Dec 04th 2005
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           RE: iranian = aryan
Dec 05th 2005
36
                RE: iranian = aryan
Dec 05th 2005
41
RE: White liberal bigotry
Dec 03rd 2005
8
see -- this is problematic.
Dec 04th 2005
10
Yep
Dec 04th 2005
13
I find it interesting, how you are so certain...
Dec 04th 2005
29
      ???
Dec 04th 2005
30
           RE: ???
Dec 05th 2005
37
                RE: ???
Dec 05th 2005
42
                     RE: ???
Dec 05th 2005
45
                          Cop out
Dec 06th 2005
46
                               RE: Cop out
Dec 06th 2005
47
                                    So the English weren't colonialists?
Dec 06th 2005
49
                                         RE: So the English weren't colonialists?
Dec 06th 2005
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                                         RE: I read #44
Dec 06th 2005
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                                              This sounds very familiar
Dec 06th 2005
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                                                   Ouch...
Dec 06th 2005
59
                                                   RE: Wow...
Dec 07th 2005
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                                         what do English/liberal colonialists have to do with BarTek?
Dec 07th 2005
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                                              RE: what do English/liberal colonialists have to do with BarTek?
Dec 07th 2005
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                                              RE: what do English/liberal colonialists have to do with BarTek?
Dec 07th 2005
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                                              RE: what do English/liberal colonialists have to do with BarTek?
Dec 07th 2005
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                                                   Ah.
Dec 07th 2005
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                                                   Wait...
Dec 07th 2005
83
                                                   Me neither
Dec 07th 2005
85
                                                   RE: what do English/liberal colonialists have to do with BarTek?
Dec 07th 2005
87
                                              RE: what do English/liberal colonialists have to do with BarTek?
Dec 07th 2005
97
                                                   You are missing the point
Dec 09th 2005
102
                                              She likes to assume that all whites are the same...
Dec 07th 2005
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                                                   Nope
Dec 09th 2005
103
RE: see -- this is problematic.
Dec 04th 2005
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      RE: see -- this is problematic.
Dec 04th 2005
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      RE: see -- this is problematic.
Dec 04th 2005
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           your own words, once again.
Dec 06th 2005
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                RE: your own words, once again.
Dec 07th 2005
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                RE: your own words, once again.
Dec 14th 2005
107
      word choice, Tek...
Dec 04th 2005
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           RE: word choice, Tek...
Dec 05th 2005
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YEP, I KNEW YOU WERE AN IDIOT!!!
Dec 23rd 2005
113
      Your mom's an idiot...
Dec 23rd 2005
115
           *pats you on the back*....ahhhh, him feelin's hurt
Dec 23rd 2005
116
                Lol, you have some serious mental issues homie...
Dec 23rd 2005
118
.
Dec 04th 2005
26
Pinko, I find it quite funny and revealing that...
Dec 04th 2005
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Obviously, you are not aware that I am done with addressing you
Dec 04th 2005
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      RE: Obviously, you are not aware that I am done with addressing you
Dec 05th 2005
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           RE: Obviously, you are not aware that I am done with addressing you
Dec 05th 2005
34
           that just might be the dumbest arguement I've seen in a while. n/m
Dec 05th 2005
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                Not to mention the fact that I inboxed him...
Dec 05th 2005
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                RE: Yet, you fail to provide any substance...
Dec 06th 2005
52
Point of clarification about my southern white woman comment...
Dec 05th 2005
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shit like this is honestly why white people shouldn't even
Dec 05th 2005
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we whites need to STEP THE FUCK BACK
Dec 05th 2005
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RE: we whites need to STEP THE FUCK BACK
Dec 06th 2005
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lol
Dec 06th 2005
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RE: we whites need to STEP THE FUCK BACK
Dec 06th 2005
53
I love how you alternate...
Dec 06th 2005
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LOL
Dec 06th 2005
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what disgusts me
Dec 06th 2005
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      Get yourself more aquianted with the matter...
Dec 06th 2005
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      RE: Get yourself more aquianted with the matter...
Dec 06th 2005
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           Telling coloured folks how to conduct themselves racially...
Dec 06th 2005
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                taking issue with ANYONE stereotyping ANYONE is not bigotry
Dec 06th 2005
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      If it was a one time thing, we could talk
Dec 06th 2005
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           Tell me about it!
Dec 06th 2005
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           ah, well...
Dec 06th 2005
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           but in no way is he being a bigot. that's what i'm taking issue with.
Dec 06th 2005
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           ???
Dec 06th 2005
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                RE: ???
Dec 07th 2005
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                     RE: ???
Dec 07th 2005
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                          regardless of how you want to spin it, the title of the post points out
Dec 07th 2005
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           You failed to address my response to you...
Dec 07th 2005
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Bawhahahahaha! Ouch! *laughs so hard my cigar fell out of my mouth*
Dec 07th 2005
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hahahahahahahaha
Dec 07th 2005
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RE: That's it?
Dec 07th 2005
88
if THAT isn't proof of penis riding, than felacio is a myth
Dec 07th 2005
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Say WORD.
Dec 23rd 2005
111
      Do y'all talk to your girl the same way you talk to your boys?
Dec 23rd 2005
112
and at its heart, this whole argument is racist.
Dec 06th 2005
64
      I could kiss you on the mouth(c) Iverson
Dec 06th 2005
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      RE: and at its heart, this whole argument is racist.
Dec 07th 2005
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      RE: and at its heart, this whole argument is racist.
Dec 07th 2005
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           See, I may be a racist (I'm not, but for arguments sake)
Dec 07th 2005
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                RE: Before you talk to me...
Dec 07th 2005
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yep.
Dec 06th 2005
65
what about liberal heteronormativity?
Dec 07th 2005
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Would you like to expound?
Dec 07th 2005
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*wins post 100*
Dec 07th 2005
100
RE: White liberal bigotry
Dec 08th 2005
101
HOLY SHIT!
Dec 13th 2005
104
T.O. is EVIL!
Dec 13th 2005
105
McNabb is SOFT!!!
Dec 13th 2005
106
Ummm
Dec 14th 2005
108
Nettrice, football is here to HELP us. Not HINDER us.
Dec 14th 2005
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RE: Nettrice, football is here to HELP us. Not HINDER us.
Dec 16th 2005
110
Wow, please explain urself/ur colleague. I've never heard some shit lik...
Dec 23rd 2005
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100% CO-SIGN! you illustrated my feelings EXACTLY lol.
Dec 23rd 2005
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