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148. "You haven't backed up the 80% - You're using Junk Math"
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If Black people are going to devise an appropriate and effective response to the AIDs crisis, we're going to have to look at things ACCURRATELY, without using hyperbole, junk math and ignoring the facts.

75-80% of all new AIDs cases among women (According to you) doesn't translate into 80% of Black Men being on the DL. Furthermore, making such a claim simply creates MORE tension between Black Men and Black Women and breeds ignorance that prevents people from addressing the true nature of the problem.

In fact, despite the fact that HIV transmissions are high within the homosexual population, not all homosexuals have AIDs and homosexual activity (or contact with someone who has engaged in such) isn't the only way people get HIV.

According to the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/afam.htm

In 2003 there were roughly 16,000 new cases of HIV amongst Blacks & 21,000 diagnoses of AIDs and 172,000 of us living with AIDs, since there are over 35 million of us in the country - that means that less than 1/2 of 1 % of us have AIDs.

See, people hear that Blacks make up X% of HIV infections and start getting crazy and applying that data to mean X% of us have HIV, instead of realizing that it's a % of infections, which in turn is a small % of the overall population.

There is also some data there about transmission categories - and yes, 50% of Black Men who get HIV receive it via male to male sexual contact. But nearly 45% of them receive it via injection drug use, heterosexual sex and "other" causes.

Now let's consider that not all homosexual men have AIDs and not all men who engage in homosexual activity sleep with women as well and let's think for a few minutes:

Who is more likely to be sleeping with women?

A Man who gets HIV via heterosexual contact/drug use/other means, who then passes it on to another woman?

A Man who gets HIV via homosexual contact?

Let's also consider that since 2/3 of Black Babies are born to unwed mothers, that Black people don't use protection, meaning that our rates of STD transmission are going to be much higher than other groups. It's not accident that the rates of out of wedlock births by race, roughly relate to the rates of STD transmission by race.

80% is just a hyperbole number provided by the chicken littles, it does little to address root causes of the problem (Infidelity, Lack of protection/safe sex) and it just creates tension between Black Men and Women.

There is no such thing as "DL Brothas" - they're called Closeted Gay Men, it happens all the time in the white community, happened to the families of some childhood friends of mine and they give White Women HIV too.

The biggest difference is that IMO they're more likely to use protection, as they're obviously much more likely to use protection with women.


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Sistahs, what's the verdict? [View all] , ya Setshego, Thu Jun-23-11 09:49 AM
 
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RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 20th 2005
1
Yes,
Oct 20th 2005
2
      RE: Yes,
Oct 20th 2005
3
           Her name means 'Peace now'.
Oct 20th 2005
4
           You mean...
Oct 24th 2005
39
That we have to work twice as hard...
Oct 20th 2005
5
LMAO@"as high as 80% of African-American men engage in this behavior"
Oct 21st 2005
6
Not at the moment, no,
Oct 21st 2005
10
Maybe because you are purporting insanity.
Oct 21st 2005
13
      It's not MY estimate
Oct 21st 2005
19
           RE: It's not MY estimate
Oct 21st 2005
23
                It stemmed from
Oct 21st 2005
25
                     Its still baseless...
Oct 21st 2005
31
                          Maybe
Oct 22nd 2005
32
                               RE: Maybe
Oct 24th 2005
61
                              
yea that discredited this entire post
Oct 24th 2005
89
      I'm not buying
Oct 24th 2005
93
           you're buying *something*
Oct 24th 2005
99
                Very well...
Oct 25th 2005
115
RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 21st 2005
7
RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 21st 2005
8
Yes!
Oct 21st 2005
11
hmmm
Oct 21st 2005
9
RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 21st 2005
12
This one here...
Oct 21st 2005
16
      Thanks
Oct 21st 2005
20
      i love u back.
Oct 21st 2005
21
      One could only hope
Oct 21st 2005
24
           RE: One could only hope
Oct 21st 2005
27
           I don't know
Oct 21st 2005
29
           see...another thing skewing the numbers
Oct 24th 2005
43
                No,
Oct 24th 2005
47
                     oh yeah i don't doubt that
Oct 24th 2005
53
                          See,
Oct 24th 2005
57
                               this is very true
Oct 24th 2005
69
RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 21st 2005
14
white down-low
Oct 21st 2005
26
RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 21st 2005
15
You are right about this
Oct 21st 2005
28
"Polygamy" amongst the youth?
Oct 21st 2005
30
      Those are 2 mature lil girls imo
Oct 24th 2005
40
           RE: Those are 2 mature lil girls imo
Oct 24th 2005
41
           I know
Oct 24th 2005
46
                PolyWhat?!
Oct 24th 2005
48
                Do you think
Oct 24th 2005
50
                cheating does not = polygyny
Oct 24th 2005
55
                Alone.
Oct 24th 2005
56
                     Will U give me a BREAK
Oct 24th 2005
62
                     U are officially broken.
Oct 24th 2005
64
                          it's like you said
Oct 24th 2005
72
                          That's been MY experience
Oct 24th 2005
74
                          RE: it's like you said
Oct 24th 2005
83
                               aw...u didn't have to answer
Oct 24th 2005
90
                                    I must admit
Oct 24th 2005
92
                          Wow.
Oct 24th 2005
73
                     RE: Alone.
Oct 25th 2005
119
                I agree
Oct 24th 2005
52
                RE: I know
Oct 24th 2005
58
                     That's interesting
Oct 24th 2005
65
                          RE: That's interesting
Oct 24th 2005
70
                               hm.
Oct 24th 2005
75
                               for REAL?!
Oct 24th 2005
78
                               lol
Oct 24th 2005
85
                                    I wonder
Oct 24th 2005
97
                                    goddess? what nation is he in?
Oct 24th 2005
101
                                    hehe...i was waitin' for you to drop in.
Oct 25th 2005
103
                                    <smirk>
Oct 25th 2005
110
                                    it's figurative.
Oct 25th 2005
107
                                    just because....
Oct 25th 2005
106
                                    oh no doubt.
Oct 25th 2005
108
                                         Dig it.
Oct 25th 2005
112
                                    don't mean to interrupt, but i just wanted to add something
Oct 25th 2005
121
                               RE: hm.
Oct 24th 2005
79
                                    i think we agree more than disagree.
Oct 24th 2005
87
                               I bet.
Oct 24th 2005
77
                                    RE: I bet.
Oct 24th 2005
100
                                         This was discussed
Oct 25th 2005
111
                                              RE: This was discussed
Oct 26th 2005
122
                                                   Yes, that helps.
Oct 26th 2005
127
           sorry...can't clap my hands to all that.
Oct 24th 2005
44
           Consider this...
Oct 25th 2005
104
                meh.
Oct 25th 2005
109
                     My points EXACTLY.
Oct 25th 2005
113
           I don't know about all that.
Oct 24th 2005
45
                lmao
Oct 24th 2005
51
                LOL!!!
Oct 25th 2005
105
I tried to just lurk since it is addressed to sistas...
Oct 21st 2005
17
RE: I tried to just lurk since it is addressed to sistas...
Oct 24th 2005
59
My thoughts
Oct 21st 2005
18
this is my thing right now
Oct 21st 2005
22
Why are we so narrow minded to think that black men are the only option?
Oct 22nd 2005
33
Love transcends the physical
Oct 22nd 2005
34
I agree
Oct 24th 2005
54
Because black men are the only option for a black family/nation
Oct 22nd 2005
35
RE: Not true.
Oct 22nd 2005
36
      RE: Not true.
Oct 23rd 2005
37
      You are
Oct 24th 2005
49
      RE: You are
Oct 24th 2005
102
           So uh,
Oct 25th 2005
116
                RE: So uh,
Oct 25th 2005
120
                     Good 4 U!
Oct 26th 2005
126
                          RE: Good 4 U!
Oct 26th 2005
130
      RE: Not true.
Oct 25th 2005
117
      RE: Not true.
Oct 23rd 2005
38
      Ya
Oct 25th 2005
118
           March on Washington?
Oct 26th 2005
128
                RE: March on Washington?
Oct 26th 2005
129
                     RE: March on Washington?
Oct 26th 2005
131
                          RE: March on Washington?
Oct 26th 2005
134
                               So I take it
Oct 27th 2005
137
                                    RE: So I take it
Oct 27th 2005
143
                                         I guess
Oct 27th 2005
145
of course not the ONLY option, but
Oct 24th 2005
42
      I couldn't
Oct 24th 2005
60
RE: Sistahs, what's the verdict?
Oct 24th 2005
63
let the church say...
Oct 24th 2005
76
Agreed.
Oct 24th 2005
81
Girl,
Oct 24th 2005
80
           RE: Thanks 4 that
Oct 24th 2005
96
What Is It that AA Women want and NEED!
Oct 24th 2005
67
What Is It that AA Women want and NEED!
Oct 24th 2005
68
RE: What Is It that AA Women want and NEED!
Oct 24th 2005
71
      RE: What Is It that AA Women want and NEED!
Oct 24th 2005
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      I don't know
Oct 24th 2005
84
           Haha.....
Oct 24th 2005
86
           you don't have to demand
Oct 24th 2005
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                Hmmm.....
Oct 24th 2005
95
                sometimes it's not about that, tho
Oct 24th 2005
98
                     Hmmm.....
Oct 25th 2005
114
Ask Willona Woods
Oct 26th 2005
123
RE: Ask Willona Woods
Oct 26th 2005
124
RE: Ask Willona Woods
Oct 26th 2005
132
my mother has a friend kind of like that
Oct 26th 2005
125
      RE: my mother has a friend kind of like that
Oct 26th 2005
133
           Was this PRE
Oct 27th 2005
138
There's just so much here, I'm not sure where to begin.
Oct 26th 2005
135
C the alarm clock discussion on this.
Oct 27th 2005
136
Huh?
Oct 27th 2005
141
      Where I'm going is
Oct 27th 2005
144
           Yes, but that has nothing to do with the "DL" issue.
Oct 28th 2005
146
                &quot;I&quot; do.
Oct 31st 2005
147
                     Men and women don't have anal sex?
Oct 31st 2005
149
i agree.
Oct 27th 2005
140
      *head nod*
Oct 27th 2005
142
theme song: "THink (about it)" by Lyn Collins
Oct 27th 2005
139

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