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80. "yes they did"
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and many of the tensions that began to arise came about because of upper class arabs who sold the land that arab peasants had worked for hundreds of years to the incoming jewish immigrants as a result of a change in Ottoman land laws. Pinko has no idea what he's talking about. all he did was throw out a bunch of quotes that were completely irrelevant and were not even uttered by leaders of the WZO. then he made the mistake of believing that
Smilanski and Smolenskin were the same person, totally ignored Smolenskin who did more for Zionism than anyone else he named. quoted herzl out of context and in a private diary, not in any speech made at any of the Zionist Congresses or in front of any foreign dignitaries, completely ignored my mention of Borochov who sought to fuse marxism and zionism. then he starts getting all excited quoting Jabotinsky when he probably doesn't even know the first thing about him. jabotinsky is hated just as much as he is deified by Israelis and Jews all over the world. his rise to power within the WZO and his creation of the Association of Zionist Revisionists led to the ongoing battle between the Likud and Labour(the same labour party who was founded by zionists who adheared to your precious marxism kid, meaning that one could argue that one brand of zionism = marxism) party that exist today. basically all he gave us was a bunch of quotes which did nothing to refute anything I said or to strengthen whatever bullshit argument he is attempting to put forth. it was a very incomplete google search if you ask me. he only featured a couple quotes from people actually involved in the WZO and instead just tried to pass off quotes from a bunch of jews or israelis under the assumption that all jews and israelis are zionists, that all zionists are jews or israelis, and that zionism can be definied simply through quotes by jews and not actually by the programs which the World Zionist Organization put into action, or deliberations by leaders of the WZO during the Zionist congresses. this kid cries all the time about how Marxism is totally misrepresented by all the people who have tried it and that pure marxism is this or that. but then he can't apply the same principles to zionism. zionism by definition of its own founders is simply "the goal to create, for the jews, a homeland in Palestine secured by public law". there is nothing in there about wiping out arabs, or even anything about that homeland being necessarily an exclusive jewish state. so why must we judge marxism by what it is in pure theory and not what it has been in practice, but not extend that same standard towards zionism? perhaps because he's a piece of shit little punk kid who has nothing better to do with his time then try and make himself appear smart by exhaustive google searches and pointless posts on this website. I still can't beleive he tried to pass smilanski off as smolenskin. hilarious. be more careful on google next time kid, check your dates and even your spelling. you can't attribute a quote to a guy who doesn't even share the same last name as the guy I brought up and then cite it as coming from a year long after the actual Smolenskin had died. pathetic at best kid. your shit is so weak that you've actually got me and dhalgren agreeing on this board more often than we're disagreeing. is that really what okayactivist has come to???

so in summation, you don't know shit. your attempts to make us think you know shit failed. zionsism does not equal terrorism and smilanski does not equal smolenskin shithead. now go read some actual books instead of searching for sound bites on the internet.


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Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey. [View all] , nyc_rootsfan, Mon Nov-03-03 07:52 AM
 
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Was it "anti-semitism" when...
Nov 03rd 2003
1
No. It was France and Britain
Nov 03rd 2003
3
      yeah but it was the same
Nov 03rd 2003
30
           Because of the guilt
Nov 04th 2003
44
                Give me a fucking break...
Nov 04th 2003
71
                     RE: Give me a fucking break...
Nov 04th 2003
73
                          exactly
Nov 04th 2003
79
                          who's arguing?
Nov 04th 2003
84
                          RE: Give me a fucking break...
Nov 04th 2003
85
                               2 things
Nov 05th 2003
100
                                    RE: 2 things
Nov 05th 2003
104
                                         hard to take you seriously when you say shit
Nov 06th 2003
105
                                              RE: hard to take you seriously when you say shit
Nov 06th 2003
106
                                                   please expound on something for us
Nov 09th 2003
108
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 03rd 2003
2
You're not an anti-Semite
Nov 03rd 2003
4
      RE: You're not an anti-Semite
Nov 03rd 2003
5
      RE: You're not an anti-Semite
Nov 03rd 2003
9
           RE: You're not an anti-Semite
Nov 03rd 2003
15
                And THERE'S the racist comment
Nov 03rd 2003
21
                     because as we know
Nov 03rd 2003
23
                     I have to agree
Nov 04th 2003
45
                     RE: And THERE'S the racist comment
Nov 03rd 2003
24
                          Then say it clearer.
Nov 03rd 2003
25
      Semites aren't just Jews though
Nov 03rd 2003
8
      Let me make myself clear:
Nov 03rd 2003
10
           I'm not pulling your card, I'm just saying
Nov 03rd 2003
13
                word...
Nov 03rd 2003
20
      RE: You're not an anti-Semite
Nov 03rd 2003
12
           Tell me Marcus Garvey's
Nov 03rd 2003
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                RE: Tell me Marcus Garvey's
Nov 03rd 2003
26
                     interesting take on Zionism pinko
Nov 03rd 2003
31
                     RE: interesting take on Zionism pinko
Nov 03rd 2003
33
                     That's 'Hell froze Over' pt 2
Nov 03rd 2003
35
                          RE: That's 'Hell froze Over' pt 2
Nov 03rd 2003
38
                     RE: Tell me Marcus Garvey's
Nov 03rd 2003
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                          To be honest
Nov 04th 2003
46
                              
                                    Im so pleased that someone said this
Nov 05th 2003
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And am I the only one
Nov 03rd 2003
6
RE: And am I the only one
Nov 03rd 2003
7
      RE: And am I the only one
Nov 03rd 2003
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      RE: And am I the only one
Nov 03rd 2003
14
      Wow.
Nov 03rd 2003
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      RE: Wow.
Nov 03rd 2003
18
           RE: Wow.
Nov 03rd 2003
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           RE: Wow.
Nov 03rd 2003
22
                RE: Wow.
Nov 03rd 2003
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                     RE: Wow.
Nov 03rd 2003
32
                     GTFOHWBS
Nov 03rd 2003
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                          RE: GTFOHWBS
Nov 03rd 2003
39
                               GTFOHWBS PT 2
Nov 04th 2003
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                               RE: GTFOHWBS PT 2
Nov 04th 2003
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                               RE: GTFOHWBS
Nov 04th 2003
81
                     Iran with Sunni Muslims
Nov 04th 2003
49
           No, you dont
Nov 04th 2003
48
      Now you are talking about Jews
Nov 04th 2003
47
lmao
Nov 03rd 2003
27
RE: lmao
Nov 03rd 2003
28
Have you been watching the news recently?
Nov 04th 2003
50
Then look at the threats from sovereign countries
Nov 04th 2003
51
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 03rd 2003
34
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 03rd 2003
37
to be honest here ....
Nov 03rd 2003
40
Both sides are wrong.
Nov 04th 2003
52
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 03rd 2003
41
Lets go back to the cold war
Nov 04th 2003
53
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 03rd 2003
42
Thankyou
Nov 04th 2003
54
      RE: Thankyou
Nov 04th 2003
55
           RE: Thankyou
Nov 04th 2003
57
                Arab-Jewish relations
Nov 04th 2003
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                     Semi-BS
Nov 04th 2003
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                          RE: Semi-BS
Nov 04th 2003
86
                          And that was...
Nov 05th 2003
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                               RE: And that was...
Nov 05th 2003
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                          RE: Semi-BS
Nov 04th 2003
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                               I think that's an idalistic
Nov 05th 2003
103
The problem
Nov 04th 2003
56
The only place they would have had to
Nov 04th 2003
58
RE: The only place they would have had to
Nov 04th 2003
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      RE: The only place they would have had to
Nov 04th 2003
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           How do you buy land that people are already living on?
Nov 04th 2003
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           You didnt see them suicide bombin the
Nov 04th 2003
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           RE: You didnt see them suicide bombin the
Nov 04th 2003
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                Im talking about guerilla warfare
Nov 05th 2003
91
                     Before Israel was founded
Nov 05th 2003
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                          RE: Before Israel was founded
Nov 05th 2003
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                               Look
Nov 05th 2003
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           RE: How do you buy land that people are already living
Nov 05th 2003
101
           RE: The only place they would have had to
Nov 04th 2003
75
                He's missing the point.
Nov 04th 2003
77
                RE: The only place they would have had to
Nov 05th 2003
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                Either the Arabs owned all of it
Nov 05th 2003
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                     RE: Either the Arabs owned all of it
Nov 05th 2003
99
all of that might have been relevant
Nov 04th 2003
82
      whatever man.
Nov 05th 2003
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wow.
Nov 04th 2003
64
what a surprise
Nov 04th 2003
65
      ask yourself that question.
Nov 04th 2003
66
           Says the stalwart defender
Nov 04th 2003
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                RE: Says the stalwart defender
Nov 04th 2003
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                     Oh the irony.
Nov 04th 2003
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                          RE: Oh the irony.
Nov 04th 2003
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                               double wow.
Nov 04th 2003
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                               RE: your links
Nov 04th 2003
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up
Nov 05th 2003
102
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 08th 2003
107
RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 10th 2003
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
Nov 10th 2003
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