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33. "RE: interesting take on Zionism pinko"
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Mon Nov-03-03 02:19 PM

  

          

Obviously you haven't been attending your Zionism 101 classes. I have read hundreds of pages of transcripts from Zionist meetings as well as books by Herzl, Anon, et al.

In fact, don't take my effing word for it, here are a few quotes of interest:

*-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25,1982:

"The Palestinians are beasts walking on two legs."

*-David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff.
From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978:

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."


*-Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department.

From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5:

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them."

***** HERZL ALERT!*****-Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, "Complete Diaries," June 12, 1895 entry.:

"Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."

*Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, head of the Kever Yossev Yeshiva (school of Talmud) in Nablus stated:

"The blood of the Jewish people is loved by the Lord; it is therefore redder and their life is preferable."

Yitzhak Ginsburg, "Five General Religious Duties Which Lie Behind the Act of the Saintly, Late Rabbi Baruch Goldstein, May his Blood be Avenged":

"The killing by a Jew of a non-Jew, i.e. a Palestinian, is considered essentially a good deed, and Jews should therefore have no compunction about it."
*OOHH THAT'S A GOOD ONE!

*-Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969:

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, ‘What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'"

*Here is your great Smilansky -Zionist leader Moshe Smilansky said in 1914:

"We must not forget that we are dealing here with a semi-savage people, which has extremely primitive concepts. And this is his nature: If he senses in you power- he will submit and will hide his hatred for you. And if he senses weakness- he will dominate you .... Moreover ... owing to the many tourists and urban Christians, there developed among the Arabs base values which are not common other primitive people ... to lie, to cheat, to harbor grave suspicions and to tell tales.... and a hidden hatred for the Jews. These Semites- they are anti-Semites." (Righteous Victims, p. 43)

*-In 1926 Ze'ev Jabotinsky wrote of the national struggle between the two conflicting, but just, national Jewish and Palestinian movements:

"The tragedy lies in the fact that there is a collision here between two truths ..... But our justice is greater. The Arabs is culturally backward , but his instinctive patriotism is just as pure and noble as our own; it can not be bought, it can only be curbed ... force majeure." (Righteous Victims, p. 108)

*-In 1934 Ze'ev Jabotinsky introduced for his youth movement followers the Betar Oath:

"I devote my life to the rebirth of the Jewish State, with a Jewish majority, on both sides of the Jordan." (Israel: A History, p. 76)

*-Ze'ev Jabotinsky stated in a letter to one of his Revisionist colleagues in the United States dated November 1939:

"There is no choice: the Arabs must make room for the Jews of Eretz Israel. If it was possible to transfer the Baltic peoples, it is also possible to move the Palestinian Arabs." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)

And he also stated:

"We Jews, thank God, have nothing to do with the East. . . . The Islamic soul must be broomed out of Eretz-Yisrael. . . . yelling rabble dressed up in gaudy, savage rags." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)

Just before his death in 1940, Ze'ev Jabotinsky expressed a justification for implementing "population transfer" for the Palestinian Arabs to realize Zionism as the following:

"The world has become accustomed to the idea of mass migrations and has become fond of them." He later added, "Hitler--- as odious as he is to us---has given this idea a good name in the world." (One Palestine Complete, p. 407)

*-In October 1882 Ben-Yehuda and Yehiel Michal Pines, few of the earliest Zionist pioneers in Palestine, wrote describing the indigenous Palestinians:

". . . There are now only five hundred Arabs, who are not very strong, and from whom we shall easily take away the country if only we do it through stratagems without drawing upon us their hostility before we become a the strong and papules ones." (Righteous Victims, p. 49)

Anyway, there are hundreds more but I think I have made my point




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Was it "anti-semitism" when...
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No. It was France and Britain
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      yeah but it was the same
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           Because of the guilt
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                Give me a fucking break...
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                     RE: Give me a fucking break...
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                          exactly
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                          who's arguing?
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                          RE: Give me a fucking break...
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                               2 things
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                                    RE: 2 things
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                                         hard to take you seriously when you say shit
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                                              RE: hard to take you seriously when you say shit
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                                                   please expound on something for us
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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You're not an anti-Semite
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      RE: You're not an anti-Semite
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      RE: You're not an anti-Semite
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           RE: You're not an anti-Semite
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                And THERE'S the racist comment
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                     because as we know
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                     I have to agree
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                     RE: And THERE'S the racist comment
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                          Then say it clearer.
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      Semites aren't just Jews though
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      Let me make myself clear:
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           I'm not pulling your card, I'm just saying
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                word...
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      RE: You're not an anti-Semite
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           Tell me Marcus Garvey's
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                RE: Tell me Marcus Garvey's
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                     interesting take on Zionism pinko
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                     That's 'Hell froze Over' pt 2
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                          RE: That's 'Hell froze Over' pt 2
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                     RE: Tell me Marcus Garvey's
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                          To be honest
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                               yes they did
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                                    Im so pleased that someone said this
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And am I the only one
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RE: And am I the only one
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      RE: And am I the only one
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      RE: And am I the only one
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      Wow.
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      RE: Wow.
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           RE: Wow.
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           RE: Wow.
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                RE: Wow.
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                     RE: Wow.
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                     GTFOHWBS
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                          RE: GTFOHWBS
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                               GTFOHWBS PT 2
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                               RE: GTFOHWBS
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                     Iran with Sunni Muslims
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           No, you dont
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      Now you are talking about Jews
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lmao
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RE: lmao
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Have you been watching the news recently?
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Then look at the threats from sovereign countries
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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to be honest here ....
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Both sides are wrong.
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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Lets go back to the cold war
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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Thankyou
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      RE: Thankyou
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           RE: Thankyou
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                Arab-Jewish relations
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                     Semi-BS
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                          RE: Semi-BS
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                          And that was...
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                               RE: And that was...
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                          RE: Semi-BS
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                               I think that's an idalistic
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The problem
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The only place they would have had to
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RE: The only place they would have had to
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      RE: The only place they would have had to
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           How do you buy land that people are already living on?
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           You didnt see them suicide bombin the
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           RE: You didnt see them suicide bombin the
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                Im talking about guerilla warfare
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                     Before Israel was founded
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                          RE: Before Israel was founded
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                               Look
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           RE: How do you buy land that people are already living
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           RE: The only place they would have had to
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                He's missing the point.
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                RE: The only place they would have had to
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                Either the Arabs owned all of it
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                     RE: Either the Arabs owned all of it
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all of that might have been relevant
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      whatever man.
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wow.
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what a surprise
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      ask yourself that question.
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           Says the stalwart defender
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                RE: Says the stalwart defender
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                     Oh the irony.
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                          RE: Oh the irony.
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                               double wow.
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                               RE: your links
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up
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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RE: Truth hurts for Israel..EU Survey.
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