Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby Okay Activist Archives topic #30309

Subject: "RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign" This topic is locked.
Previous topic | Next topic
PleaseNoBakon
Member since Nov 16th 2004
132 posts
Tue Apr-26-05 12:59 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via ICQ
8. "RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign"
In response to In response to 2


  

          

>There needs to be more responsibility for self within the
>community, and not all of this apathy crap. Do blacks get the
>short end of the stick? Of course we do. But can I make that
>stick work for me? Absolutely.

I'm not sure what you mean by making this work for you.

>Music is the language and the pulse of the people.

I highly disagree with this statement. Music was the language and the pulse of the people. Now it is not. Certian music may speak to some people in important ways, but by and large, music is nothing more than a commodity. Would Mos droppin the Rapeover joint be distributed by labels if they're weren't a market for it? Hell no. I heard Saul Williams talkin about all the negativity thats on the airwaves and he stated that hip hop has become Republican. Its not about caring, or community or anything else it should be about. It is about making money.


>Whatever is going on within hip-hop is what's going on in society. I >don't listen to our "urban" radio station here in Baltimore because
>they're strictly commerical and all they play is garbage.
>They're in a position to influnce a large body of people with
>their music selection and constantly choose to flood the
>airwaves with G-Unit and Lil' John.

Yeah, I'm from the area too so I know what your sayin. But you don't have to be in the area to understand b/c that shit is everywhere. Why? Because thats what the people in charge of the 2 or 3 companies who own all the radio stations decide to play. Why do they choose to play that instead of the roots or blackstar? Thats a tough one. No respect for the culture or the black community and youth in general is one reason. If they did care, they would act differently. But more importantly, they are giving people what they want.

IMPORTANT LESSON: Things that appeal to people usually appeal to them on the lowest common denominator. It is easy to appeal to peoples base insticts.

>If they played The Roots or Black Star a few times a week, I >guarantee they'll be requests for it. People are hungry for that.

I couldn't disagree more. Some people are, but most don't get down "real" music. If they did, it would be on the radio. It's capitalism at work. And it is pure, free-market capitalism drivin by nothing more than money. There is a big difference between this and responsible capitalism which will take cuts in profits if it's for the greater good.

>The real. But even with "conscious" rap, you have to be careful. Some
>artists try to walk the line between making "gangsta" and
>responsible music. In any event we take responsibility for
>what our kids listen too.

We cant control what our kids see and hear unless we lock them in a box. Whether radio, tv, magazines, the internet, billboards when are we not being bombasted by the media. Pretty much only when we sleep. Its no different for kids. You can't hide it from them or them it. The best you can do is teach them to know right from wrong and hope they are smart/ lucky enough to not get caught up in anything too grimy.



And if it's something I'm trying to
>shield from them so much, why am I listening to it?

Because hopefully you know the difference and don't let it influence you, whereas they are too young to know and are easily misled.

  

Printer-friendly copy


Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop [View all] , B, Tue Apr-26-05 12:45 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 26th 2005
1
co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 26th 2005
2
RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 26th 2005
4
RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 26th 2005
5
      RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 27th 2005
21
           RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 28th 2005
25
RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 26th 2005
9
      RE: co-sign, co-sign, co-sign
Apr 26th 2005
12
      To help you make the point.
Apr 28th 2005
24
           'The Rapeover' indeed
Apr 28th 2005
26
i was highly upset
Apr 28th 2005
30
      It's madness
Apr 28th 2005
33
           i'm usually tuned into 88.9
Apr 28th 2005
34
                Oneofus-ism is such a hot phrase. I love it.
Apr 28th 2005
36
Cycles, cycles - life runs in cycles
Apr 26th 2005
3
I think we have to have a healthy alternative. U said it urself.
Apr 26th 2005
6
i agree
Apr 26th 2005
10
      RE: i agree
Apr 26th 2005
11
I always respond to these posts - This post is unadulterated bullshit
Apr 26th 2005
13
True...but is it all b.s.?
Apr 26th 2005
14
yes it is.
Apr 26th 2005
15
      Oh, I get ya
Apr 26th 2005
18
      RE: yes it is.
Apr 26th 2005
20
           RE: yes it is.
Apr 28th 2005
37
i agree, HOWEVER
Apr 28th 2005
32
very well written
Apr 26th 2005
16
RE: Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 26th 2005
17
My thoughts on Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 26th 2005
19
      RE: My thoughts on Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 28th 2005
22
           RE: My thoughts on Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 28th 2005
23
           You turned out O.K.
Apr 28th 2005
28
RE: Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 28th 2005
27
first: put music back in schools
Apr 28th 2005
29
Rap Is Part Of Capitalism
Apr 28th 2005
31
whats entertaining about it, is a...
Apr 28th 2005
35
RE: Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 28th 2005
38
Enough with the RHETORIC
Apr 28th 2005
39
RE: Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 28th 2005
40
RE: Beats, Rhymes, & Life: The Effects of Hip Hop
Apr 29th 2005
41

Lobby Okay Activist Archives topic #30309 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com