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stravinskian
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22. "RE: aha. yeah, this is what i suspected."
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Wed Apr-06-05 05:59 AM by stravinskian

          

>thanks for breaking it down for us non-physics minded people

Sure thing. It's rare that my particular kind of education is relevant to anything in the real world. I gotta jump up on those occasions.

>(but if you ever want the geographical features of a glacier
>described, i'm your man...)

I'll keep that in mind. We don't have many glaciers to deal with in LA, though.

>it's a shame, because i really wanted it to be possible.. but
>yeah, i remember seeing electrolysis at high school, those
>bubbles ain't gonna get you far

Yeah, I mean safe, renewable energy is going to be a huge problem in the coming decades. And people just don't see the impending trouble. There was a joint US, EU proposal a few years ago to study controlled thermonuclear fusion. With that technology, one could indeed use ordinary water as fuel, and the only waste would be pure helium (very small amounts of it, even).

Nevertheless, the US government killed it when they saw the $10 billion price tag. Meanwhile, we've spent $90 billion and counting on a missile defense system that will never work, and wouldn't be useful even if it did!


And on top of that, people just won't calm down about fuel cells. They don't ask where the hydrogen would come from. Again, it has to be electrolyzed from water. So again, the energy doesn't "come from" the hydrogen, it comes from electrolysis plants, burning fossil fuels!

  

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gas from water [View all] , tohunga, Tue Apr-05-05 04:29 PM
 
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I feel like there might be a "based on facts" movie about him...
Apr 05th 2005
1
look here, u aint even TRY us first. u lame for that.
Apr 05th 2005
2
yeah, well i was reading in there and i was too lazy to change
Apr 05th 2005
3
this concept is outstanding. How do we make it so that
Apr 05th 2005
4
It's more a question of economics...
Apr 05th 2005
5
too right, but methinks u can make so much money
Apr 06th 2005
25
      You're only look at the one fuel (Water)
Apr 06th 2005
27
see.. i have some scepticism.
Apr 05th 2005
6
The "corrosion free holes" might be a problem...
Apr 05th 2005
7
nah, i'm pretty sure it doesn't
Apr 05th 2005
9
a bigger problem,
Apr 05th 2005
17
      aha. yeah, this is what i suspected.
Apr 06th 2005
21
          
                and that's why i ain't keen on hydrogen cells!
Apr 06th 2005
23
                     Can't get any energy for free...
Apr 06th 2005
24
the batteries might not last long
Apr 05th 2005
20
It hasn't gotten press? I mean its really easy to ditch ideas
Apr 06th 2005
26
      I think the question is...
Apr 06th 2005
28
RE: this concept is outstanding. How do we make it so that
Apr 05th 2005
8
      that's fuel cells again though
Apr 05th 2005
10
           Methane from..
Apr 05th 2005
11
                yeah, i heard about that, it was excellent
Apr 05th 2005
12
                     RE: yeah, i heard about that, it was excellent
Apr 05th 2005
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RE: gas from water
Apr 05th 2005
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RE: gas from water
Apr 05th 2005
15
In this house we obey the laws of Thermodynamics!!!
Apr 05th 2005
16
water doesnt give me gas.
Apr 05th 2005
18
they speaking on energy alternatives live right now...
Apr 05th 2005
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