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Nettrice
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45. "I agree"
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>i realize that i may of seriously phucked up some lives
>because i was curious about sexuality at a very young age.
>looking back at it - they were just objects in my learning
>experience, hopefully i was for them too.

I did the same but it was not supposed to be hurtul. We all learned from the experiences. This is why it's sad when adults close themselves off from young people. I don't condone teenage sex (intercourse) but I recognize how important it is to explore. I liked exploration (it didn't hurt me) as a kid/teenager. Later, in college, it was more about sexual conquest and now I am on a totally new & different level.

>>There
>>was no talk about sex...I was left with my books. The next
>>time I kept my mouth shut.
>
>is that the right thing to do though?

I think the books did a better job of explaining the mechanics and I learned about the rest from observation. Sure, it would have been better to talk to my parents about it when I was 13 but there were limits.

>when racism
>hit my household in the third grade (i had to ask my parents
>what 'nigger' meant after i had just beat the living shyt out
>of some kid for saying that's all i was)

I was in the 1st or 2nd grade when a white kid told me to go back to Africa. I told him to go back to Europe. He looked shocked and did not have a comeback. Again, I knew this information from books, not from my parents. I was quite the bookworm.

>he couldn't
>really relate to what i was facing, and the message that was
>sent was. 'educate yourself' and lets not talk about it. race
>wasn't an issue that came up in the home.

I think if more parents were open about these issues there would be less fear and confusion when things happen outside the home. My parents encouraged me to read and I read whatever I could get me hands on.

> first of all - i'm never neutering my dog, its tantamount to
>cutting my own nuts off - i'd rather live vicariously through
>him (especially as a celibate).
> i see the smile that follows your answer, but is it really
>running away? i'm actually facing the facts. that i'm gutter,
>always have been - always will be.

Why? Is that why you choose to be celibate?

> true - it was sexual exploration, and the "imaginative
>scenarios" i acted out at 5 years old were guided by
>television movies, which makes me question how much of our
>sexual identity is our own, and how much is influenced by the
>images that we receive? i mean, maybe i was 5, but i still
>know cats that are trying to act scenes out from movies, just
>to say that they've done it (no creativity)

Must be a guy thing but maybe not. The first time I saw a boy's penis was when I was outside playing hide-n-go-seek (he called me from a window). The same boy got suspended when he tried to do it during show-n-tell (3rd grade). It was innocent, funny, rebellious. I bought him candy, so he could be my protector at school and soon he said he wanted more than candy. That was scary and exciting. I had a vague idea of what he wanted but not a clue about what was supposed to happen or what he was going to do. It was still "play", nothing serious and my mother trusted me. My father bet I would be pregnant by age 16 (he lost the bet).

>it's sad to say - but many of the girls i dated in high school
>- through college - were trophies that boosted my self-esteem,
>and a woman with fake breasts was the "ultimate." they were
>considered the national standard for beauty (still are -
>sadly), and not much different than your 18 year-old trophy -
>because every teenage girl wants to be with the most mature
>boy they can find - and at 13 you must have been the SHIT!

Nah. I was just shy and boys saw that as being coy meaning: "affectedly modest or shy especially in a playful or provocative way". I developed early (age 10) but I had low self-esteem because I didn't fit the standard...but boys seemed interested, anyway. I liked boys my age. Men meant trouble (especially as a teen).

>amongst all your friends. you had reached the pinnacle in
>your local dating standards. what guides that? friends?
>elders? mass-mediums?

To the elders in my community, I was smart, different, and going places. They were so afraid I would get knocked up or worse. I think there were higher expectations for me and my sister. My friends were getting knocked up right and left. They were getting into trouble and I was the "good girl". They thought if their parents saw them with me they could get away with stuff. I learned from them what not to do.

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Foot Binding and Cosmetic Surgery [View all] , Nettrice, Fri Mar-18-05 08:26 AM
 
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Footbinding is disturbing, but it's part of a greater
Mar 18th 2005
1
Very disturbing
Mar 18th 2005
2
Sexism???
Mar 18th 2005
3
Most definately
Mar 18th 2005
4
      aiight...thanks for the clarity
Mar 18th 2005
7
           oh, so ultimately women are stupid.
Mar 27th 2005
11
                Nope...just conditioned
Mar 27th 2005
15
isnt this a sign of female independence?
Mar 18th 2005
5
The article had a good point
Mar 18th 2005
6
you shouldn't have to define beauty by altering yourself.
Mar 26th 2005
8
      That's not how it is...
Mar 27th 2005
14
RE: isnt this a sign of female independence?
Mar 26th 2005
9
same song - different generation...
Mar 27th 2005
10
It seems more widespread now...
Mar 27th 2005
16
Tell her to look at the overt martyrhood (SELF-destruction)
Mar 27th 2005
12
She's only 13
Mar 27th 2005
13
      STOP!! you're scaring the hell out of me...
Mar 27th 2005
17
      Fear doesn't work
Mar 27th 2005
18
      First thought...Ani DiFranco's lyrics
Mar 28th 2005
19
      RE: First thought...Ani DiFranco's lyrics
Mar 28th 2005
20
      what other people do to you ain't your dirty laundry...
Mar 28th 2005
40
          
                They're not Objects. I understand what you're saying.
Mar 28th 2005
47
                I'm really enjoying this thread. FOOT=FUCK!!!! in that sensing
Mar 28th 2005
48
      RE-->GUILT TRIPS: guilty confession will not be accepted nor demanded!
Mar 28th 2005
24
      ALL MEN ARE MALE CHAUVANIST PIGS (hyperbole sensors 'ON')
Mar 28th 2005
25
           People may misunderstand this
Mar 28th 2005
27
           ADOlESCENTS only want to fight and fuck
Mar 28th 2005
31
           I don't support any kind of "ism"
Mar 28th 2005
34
                excess feminine energy is what is called "EVIL" and about -ism/sysytems
Mar 28th 2005
49
                     Anything in excess can be
Mar 28th 2005
50
                          the words I use are Important (supressing laughter)
Mar 29th 2005
54
                               RE: the words I use are Important (supressing laughter)
Mar 29th 2005
56
           right
Mar 28th 2005
51
           you're quick chris...
Mar 29th 2005
52
                Who's not nuts???? The JUDGEMENTAL JUDGE, who is nuts but
Mar 29th 2005
55
      Fear is a CHOICE, BUT IT IS NOT A GODDAMN FUCKING OPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 28th 2005
23
           You can't run from fear
Mar 28th 2005
28
      STOP DUMPING SEXUAL SHAME AND GUILT OVER WOMEN!!!!
Mar 28th 2005
22
      give her this" YOu don't need to tell me I'm pretty" [LINK] & Lyrics swi...
Mar 28th 2005
21
           Modeling is very important
Mar 28th 2005
26
                i would suggest
Mar 28th 2005
30
                     Oh, I'll let her hear the song but
Mar 28th 2005
36
                          and that's precisely my point
Mar 28th 2005
38
                               Hey
Mar 28th 2005
39
                                    FUCKING MADEMY NIGHT WITH BEING SO CREATIVE (cosigning a post about you)
Mar 28th 2005
41
                                    Masculine/Mothering/Feminine/Fathering energy WTF???? ! A.N.S.W.E.R.
Mar 28th 2005
42
                                         Energy=duality=basic nature
Mar 28th 2005
43
                                              HUMAN NATURE IS TO BE LOVING. (Professor Griff knows.. (SAMLL SWIPE))
Mar 28th 2005
44
                                              LOL!
Mar 28th 2005
46
                                              RE: Energy=duality=basic nature
Mar 29th 2005
53
self improvement
Mar 28th 2005
29
Why is it a flaw?
Mar 28th 2005
32
      RE: Why is it a flaw?
Mar 28th 2005
33
      RE: Why is it a flaw?
Mar 28th 2005
35
      simulacrum
Mar 28th 2005
37
      RE: Why is it a flaw?
Mar 29th 2005
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