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13. "RE: If Blacks have no culture"
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That's precisely what is meant by our lack of culture. People worldwide not only cop what we do, but they help define it, manipulate it and control it as well. This has been going on for generations. This is what i meant in my earlier post about us being reactionary to whites. So much of black american culture came as result of constantly having to react to what we were and are allowed to do allowed to be etc...

When you have true culture, your identity is proactive... And also when you have a truly developed culture, not only is is not for sale, but it is defined by you and yours and passed down thru the generations accordingly.

I got a lot of friends from other cultures--jewish, isreali, japanese, german... no matter how much i may dig what they do, they make it clear that who they are and what they are belongs to them. if they choose to share it, fine. But otherwise step-off. Ain't no co-option of what they are... ain't no real mass marketing of their identity being done by folks outside their community.

That's culture. And that's what we as black americans and to a certain degree black folks in every country are lacking--a communal bond that belongs to us.

Hell, remember FUBU? They can't even really be called For Us By Us anymore given that they make their clothes for mainstream (non-black) consumers. I saw an interview with those cats trying to dance around that issue because they want that white dollar. they've had to change so much of their flavor that it's all milquetoast.

Hip & R&B's audience is 80% white and non-black. has been since the early 90s. The retailers, labels, radio stations, etc. are almost exclusively black-owned. When you have white marketers and manufacturers making product and images to reach white consumers, as a black person there's no way in hell you can say you have a culture.

now when you have your own culture and control your own culture, you don't do that kinda stuff.

Do you?
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Blacks have no culture? [View all] , MizClayton, Mon Nov-24-03 04:39 PM
 
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RE: Blacks have no culture?
Nov 24th 2003
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RE: Blacks have no culture?
Nov 25th 2003
4
RE: Blacks have no culture?
Nov 24th 2003
2
RE: We have a culture!
Nov 24th 2003
3
I can agree with that
Nov 25th 2003
5
poverty, crack, racism, lack of education
Nov 27th 2003
24
Dumbest thing I have heard in a week.
Nov 25th 2003
6
chine/japa + nese
Nov 25th 2003
7
RE: chine/japa + nese
Nov 26th 2003
8
RE: Blacks have no culture?
Nov 26th 2003
9
much of the culture was born of reaction to slavery
Nov 26th 2003
10
RE: Blacks have no culture?
Nov 26th 2003
11
If Blacks have no culture
Nov 26th 2003
12
CO- tothe SIGN!
Nov 26th 2003
15
RE: If Blacks have no culture
Nov 26th 2003
17
I totally feel and see what you're saying
Nov 26th 2003
19
RE: If Blacks have no culture
Nov 26th 2003
14
      RE: If Blacks have no culture
Nov 26th 2003
16
           Naw, PulpHustler...
Nov 26th 2003
18
RE: Blacks have no culture?
Nov 26th 2003
20
Like you said...
Nov 27th 2003
21
      RE: Like you said...
Nov 27th 2003
23
You can't measure culture or unity "at home"
Nov 27th 2003
22
Very true
Nov 27th 2003
25

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