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Its a very interesting topic and both of our points are correct in some sense. From what I've learned, protestantism enhanced American capitalism, rather than all global capitalism, by instilling an ethic of hard work and individual savings. That is why class mobility was actually more likely for white male workers at the turn of the 19th century than it is today. Also, with a protestant work ethic that instilled hard work and created all sorts of mythologies about laziness, particularly attributed to africans in america, capitalists had a labour pool that was ready to produce goods for them at unprecedented rates while having to pay out next to nothing. It was an ethic of working hard and producing in the present in order to be rewarded in the afterlife. Also, with that hard work was also a culture of thriftiness among the working class where spending and consuming for the sake of consuming was considered irresponsible and sinful. So, for capitalists this mode of thinking was to their benefit because they could get more output from workers. The culture of thrift, however, led to two major economic crises by the 1880s and 1920s where capitalists were overproducing while workers were reluctant to consume. That wasn't the only reason for the crisis but in the 1920s, for the first time in US history, the government involved itself in issues regarding consumption in order to raise demands for ever increasing levels of production. In 1921, before he became president, Herbert Hoover established and served as the head of the Commerce Department. From that point on consumption came to mean something completely different in America and in the world.

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Towards a class based movement against racism and sexism [View all] , Pinko_Panther, Wed Feb-23-05 01:32 PM
 
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it should be a combination of both race and class
Feb 23rd 2005
1
exactly, my thoughts in a minute.
Feb 23rd 2005
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RE: it should be a combination of both race and class
Feb 23rd 2005
3
people forget AA was designed for gender too
Apr 08th 2005
40
How would this directly speak to the plight of the
Feb 23rd 2005
4
RE: How would this directly speak to the plight of the
Feb 24th 2005
5
yup. Russians got along with Ukrainians just fine.
Feb 24th 2005
7
One point!
Feb 25th 2005
16
i think racism is definitely a great tool to oppress ...
Feb 24th 2005
9
Opression is a tool of advantage.
Feb 24th 2005
12
true, but my point was more about...
Feb 24th 2005
13
RE: i think racism is definitely a great tool to oppress ...
Feb 25th 2005
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n/m
Apr 08th 2005
41
RE: How would this directly speak to the plight of the
Feb 25th 2005
14
      I believe pure socialism is a farse.
Feb 26th 2005
21
           Please, just show me that you are at least trying to focus...
Feb 26th 2005
22
                Interesting...
Feb 26th 2005
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                     RE: Interesting...
Feb 28th 2005
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                          nah man.
Mar 01st 2005
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                          What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Mar 01st 2005
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                               What happened here?
Apr 06th 2005
34
                               who, me? I thought it was done.
Apr 08th 2005
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                                    RE: who, me? I thought it was done.
Apr 08th 2005
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                                         well damn. lol....my bad.
Apr 08th 2005
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                               RE: What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Apr 07th 2005
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                               RE: What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Mar 01st 2005
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ok so that's what you all think about race
Feb 24th 2005
6
for gender and race relations...
Feb 24th 2005
10
Selma James' work is also useful...
Feb 25th 2005
18
The Wobblies were some decent cats...
Apr 06th 2005
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RE: ok so that's what you all think about race
Feb 25th 2005
15
Don't just blame white labor unions
Feb 24th 2005
8
I don't think I disagree with you but...
Feb 25th 2005
19
Devil's Advocate
Feb 24th 2005
11
What a great question!!
Feb 25th 2005
20
Globalization.........
Mar 03rd 2005
32
mmm
Mar 03rd 2005
33
great post....
Feb 26th 2005
24
i appreciate the worker thing
Mar 01st 2005
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RE: i appreciate the worker thing
Apr 11th 2005
44
Up
Mar 03rd 2005
31
The real question is...
Apr 08th 2005
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RE: The real question is...
Apr 08th 2005
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      RE: The real question is...
Apr 11th 2005
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