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Everything you just said, about how the white worker sees his/herself as better off than his/her black co-worker because his/her boss is white. Or, that white workers for some reason support capitalism. While I agree that everything you are saying is true, to a certain extent and not even close to completely, you are making the grave mistake as framing the behaviour of black and white robotically as some inherent behaviour rather than a form of cultural development that is constantly subject to change. Further, if this is the case, then the incorporation of race and gender into meaningful class analysis is dependent of the work that we, the people, put into developing it. I don't buy arguments like this is how so and so behave therefore I am going to roll over and take it. That's crap, the labour movement is a movement of people who make conscious decisions, the black movement is a movement of people who make conscious decisions, the women's movement is a movement of people who make conscious decisions. If we, as people within these movements worked a little harder to build a movement that combined these three so-called 'identities' then we would see leap of change in the social behaviour of many groups.

>Afrikan in America with such a broadly brushed stroke?
>
>Certainly racism is a tool of oppression in capitalism.
>Certainly less than 5% of the population controls most of
>this country's wealth.
>Undoubtedly many of the wealthy individuals in this country
>are white.
>
>But do you think that working class whites also support this
>system? I feel that due to the feudal mindset of the
>European and it's inherit imprint on the popular culture,
>the status quo is buttressed by people who live vicariously
>thru others that are more successful.
>
>Your prejudiced worker might not be better off than the his
>black coworker, but he might FEEL better cus his boss is
>white.
>
>so sure he'll buttress a thought pattern, or economic
>system, or a tax plan or a bill in congress that help keeps
>ole boi down...
>
>or maybe I'm just pessimistic. I can't spell it either.
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Towards a class based movement against racism and sexism [View all] , Pinko_Panther, Wed Feb-23-05 01:32 PM
 
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it should be a combination of both race and class
Feb 23rd 2005
1
exactly, my thoughts in a minute.
Feb 23rd 2005
2
RE: it should be a combination of both race and class
Feb 23rd 2005
3
people forget AA was designed for gender too
Apr 08th 2005
40
How would this directly speak to the plight of the
Feb 23rd 2005
4
RE: How would this directly speak to the plight of the
Feb 24th 2005
5
yup. Russians got along with Ukrainians just fine.
Feb 24th 2005
7
One point!
Feb 25th 2005
16
i think racism is definitely a great tool to oppress ...
Feb 24th 2005
9
Opression is a tool of advantage.
Feb 24th 2005
12
true, but my point was more about...
Feb 24th 2005
13
RE: i think racism is definitely a great tool to oppress ...
Feb 25th 2005
17
n/m
Apr 08th 2005
41
      I believe pure socialism is a farse.
Feb 26th 2005
21
           Please, just show me that you are at least trying to focus...
Feb 26th 2005
22
                Interesting...
Feb 26th 2005
23
                     RE: Interesting...
Feb 28th 2005
25
                          nah man.
Mar 01st 2005
26
                          What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Mar 01st 2005
28
                               RE: What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Mar 01st 2005
29
                               What happened here?
Apr 06th 2005
34
                               who, me? I thought it was done.
Apr 08th 2005
37
                                    RE: who, me? I thought it was done.
Apr 08th 2005
38
                                         well damn. lol....my bad.
Apr 08th 2005
39
                               RE: What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Apr 07th 2005
36
                               RE: What protestianism rejected Greed!?
Mar 01st 2005
30
ok so that's what you all think about race
Feb 24th 2005
6
for gender and race relations...
Feb 24th 2005
10
Selma James' work is also useful...
Feb 25th 2005
18
The Wobblies were some decent cats...
Apr 06th 2005
35
RE: ok so that's what you all think about race
Feb 25th 2005
15
Don't just blame white labor unions
Feb 24th 2005
8
I don't think I disagree with you but...
Feb 25th 2005
19
Devil's Advocate
Feb 24th 2005
11
What a great question!!
Feb 25th 2005
20
Globalization.........
Mar 03rd 2005
32
mmm
Mar 03rd 2005
33
great post....
Feb 26th 2005
24
i appreciate the worker thing
Mar 01st 2005
27
RE: i appreciate the worker thing
Apr 11th 2005
44
Up
Mar 03rd 2005
31
The real question is...
Apr 08th 2005
42
RE: The real question is...
Apr 08th 2005
43
      RE: The real question is...
Apr 11th 2005
45

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