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74. "ahhh, great questions"
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Obviously I'm not the foremost expert on communism. I will, however, answer your questions to the best of my ability.

>People have talked about "greed" and "power" but the real
>issue is dealing with disproportionate allotments of
>resources. Small groups can effectively trade and barter bc
>they're likely more familiar with each other.
>
>But how do you impel people to share with other far flung
>people they have little to no contact with? Even if they were
>aware of others hardships, wouldn't they still be more
>concerned about the possiblity of hardship locally?

Well, there would obviously have to be a worldwide distribution system. People tend to think of communism (at the roots) as people in small villages in huts. While there is some truth to that (we'd have to be less reliant on technology for sure, but nowhere near the "hut" level) it is a misnomer. Food and other goods and resources would have to be shared worldwide. To sustain this, we would need to employ the smae metods we do now, trains, trucks, ships, airplanes, cars. There would also have to bo worldwide communication and orginization for this to take place, obviously.

>It seems there needs to be some way of determining where
>resources would do the most "good". But I noticed someone said
>that communism requires the disollution of government. Without
>some sort of delegation of authority, how are the needs of
>individuals supposed to be met in a massive, communist
>society?

Well, it's not "autority" that is needed, but organization.As far as determining "where" resorces go, I don't have an answer to the specifics of that except that it would be besed as much as possible on need.

>On a simpler note, how do you get people to mine coal? I'm
>sure some people would naturally want to, but most people that
>do it right now onl do it bc they have little choice. Would
>these people still be "oppressed" by the specter of danger to
>their health and well-being, no matter how fairly medical
>attention was distributed? Aren't there some jobs few people
>would do unless they absolutely had to?

One thing that I've heard a lot of talk about is that people wouldn't be forced to pick one job and stick to it the rest of their life. Obviously there would be some persuits where this was fairly nessecary, genetics research and things of that nature. Although, it may not even be nessecary in those fields, because in a communist state, information would (ideally, but of course) be free flowing. So geneticists who make a discovery in canada would immideatly communicate their findings and methods to all geneticists all over the world. There wouldn't be any reason to hide findings (profit) so a scientific community could be much more efficient.

But I digress, as far as jobs are concerned, every one able would be made to do at least some physical labor. Mainly so they know what it is like. So, hopefully, cole mining and other dangerous jobs could be farmed out (at least in part) to people only doing it for 6 months of their life, or something like that. Obiously though, there would be people doing it much longer than that, especially people to train all the new people coming in.

This may not be AS efficient, in fact probably not. But we would no longer need to be as efficient as natural resources like coal would be used so much more sparingly.

  

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why is communism impossible? [View all] , mc_delta_t, Sun Mar-06-05 02:41 PM
 
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*looks over shoulder for pinko panther*
Mar 06th 2005
1
Can you try elaborating on that?
Mar 06th 2005
2
I don't feel they can be created.
Mar 06th 2005
5
      RE: I don't feel they can be created.
Mar 06th 2005
9
      You are being unfair.
Mar 06th 2005
12
           RE: You are being unfair.
Mar 07th 2005
23
                RE: I think you are being unrealistic...Peace/nm
Mar 07th 2005
57
      The idea of communism is that the state is supposed to wither away.
Mar 07th 2005
25
           that's exactly the point
Mar 07th 2005
34
           Well, it hasn't happened has it?
Mar 07th 2005
51
RE: *looks over shoulder for pinko panther*
Mar 06th 2005
7
      Holla at post 5 right quick.
Mar 06th 2005
8
RE: why is communism impossible?
Mar 06th 2005
3
Why a century?
Mar 06th 2005
14
allow me to answer for him, lol
Mar 06th 2005
15
      WE are all Inately Greedy
Mar 07th 2005
18
      incorrect
Mar 07th 2005
19
           RE: its not one or the other, we don't know...nm
Mar 07th 2005
58
      In thhe meantime, what power keeps folks in-line?
Mar 07th 2005
39
Communism is Possible
Mar 07th 2005
26
RE: why is communism impossible?
Mar 06th 2005
4
Big Government is Not the issue!
Mar 10th 2005
68
RE: why is communism impossible?
Mar 06th 2005
6
RE: why is communism impossible?
Mar 06th 2005
10
      RE: why is communism impossible?
Mar 06th 2005
13
           well, i was trying to draw out.
Mar 07th 2005
20
one more thing
Mar 06th 2005
11
it will never work because...
Mar 07th 2005
16
and capitalism favors individuality?
Mar 07th 2005
21
RE: and capitalism favors individuality?
Mar 07th 2005
28
RE: and capitalism favors individuality?
Mar 07th 2005
37
i think your idea of capitalism is skewed.
Mar 07th 2005
36
      RE: i think your idea of capitalism is skewed.
Mar 29th 2005
70
How free is capitalism?
Mar 07th 2005
53
RE: How free is capitalism?
Mar 08th 2005
59
      RE: How free is capitalism?
Mar 08th 2005
60
      its all so confusing
Mar 08th 2005
64
           RE: its all so confusing
Mar 09th 2005
65
           Well, is America true capitalism?
Mar 09th 2005
67
           RE: its all so confusing
Mar 10th 2005
69
           RE: its all so confusing
Mar 09th 2005
66
           they do the same thing in capitalist / "free market" economies
Mar 29th 2005
77
      *bites*.... please USE USSR as an example.
Mar 29th 2005
76
RE: it will never work because...
Mar 07th 2005
56
Just like with Capitalism...
Mar 07th 2005
17
RE: Just like with Capitalism...
Mar 07th 2005
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      You have to...
Mar 07th 2005
24
           RE: You have to...
Mar 07th 2005
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                I would never...
Mar 07th 2005
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                     RE: I would never...
Mar 07th 2005
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Because man is an inherantly flawed creature
Mar 07th 2005
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RE: Because man is an inherantly flawed creature
Mar 07th 2005
30
      That's what...
Mar 07th 2005
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      RE: That's what...
Mar 07th 2005
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      in a capitalist society
Mar 07th 2005
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           RE: in a capitalist society
Mar 07th 2005
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           but a capitalist society is built to accomodate that
Mar 07th 2005
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                RE: but a capitalist society is built to accomodate that
Mar 07th 2005
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                     it's a nice dream
Mar 08th 2005
61
           you could argue that capitalism brings out "good"
Mar 07th 2005
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                the environmentalist in me says
Mar 07th 2005
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                RE: you could argue that capitalism brings out "good"
Mar 29th 2005
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human nature
Mar 07th 2005
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RE: human nature
Mar 29th 2005
72
Why arn't people always nice to each other?
Mar 07th 2005
35
So, what you are implying...
Mar 07th 2005
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      RE: So, what you are implying...
Mar 07th 2005
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           Sarcasm aside...
Mar 07th 2005
48
                RE: Sarcasm aside...
Mar 07th 2005
50
                     Let me simplify...
Mar 07th 2005
52
                          RE: Let me simplify...
Mar 07th 2005
54
How are resources shared globally in communism?
Mar 07th 2005
49
Keep it localized and it just might work.
Mar 08th 2005
62
Face it, its impossible
Mar 08th 2005
63
reply 74
Mar 29th 2005
75
short answer
Mar 29th 2005
73
Because...
Mar 29th 2005
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RE: Because...
Mar 29th 2005
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RE: Because...
Apr 01st 2005
83
Communism is not impossible it is just the fact that the shit
Mar 29th 2005
80
people are too selfish and greedy
Mar 30th 2005
81
RE: people are too selfish and greedy
Mar 30th 2005
82

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