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>>People are always going to look for an advantage. > >I don't think this is true, I think it's human nature to >survive, not to be greedy, or control. > >>Communism, IMO assumes that everybody will assume a role >>and put the state above personal power struggles. Power >>isn't just about money it's about Military strength, >>Intelligence, control of key resources, etc... >> >>When you look at the failure of communism IMO you really see >>the failure of implementation of a "utopia" state. I just >>don't feel humans are capable of pulling it off.
>Now see, this is where i really start to have a problem with >these arguments. I don't understand why humans WOULDN'T be >capable of "pulling this off".
Where in human history do you have an example of us "pulling it off?"
> >>You talk about socialism in it's application, and in large >>part you are also talking about megadeath: Hitler, Stalin, >>Lenin, Mao... > >Um, Columbus, George Washington, The Crusades. I don't think >it is socialism that is the driving force behind mass >murder/opression by powerful figures.
That's not what I said. And still the numbers PALE in comparison. Any application of societal control is gonna be bloody in it's implementation on the state and international level. Folk don't wanna do things YOUR way. They want to do it THEIR way. In the process, folk die...I'm saying tho. Them numbers for communism/socialism aint exactly minute.
> >>You would think that in a period of mass political >>consciousness and increased literacy that you would have a >>working class that wouldn't allow for power struggles like >>this. They woulda nipped it in the bud, right? Well, no. >>Not when lenin is responsible for around 8 million deaths, >>Stalin 20 million, Hitler at 17million, etc... >> >>what you had was a "Coercive Utopia" (c) Brezinski >> >>And what IMO is the inevitable evolution from socialism to >>totalitarianism.
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