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80. "hmmm... i don't really see how"
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Is Nationalism necessary? [View all] , FireBrand, Thu Mar-24-05 02:33 PM
 
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Necessary for what?
Mar 24th 2005
1
what do you mean necessary for what?
Mar 24th 2005
2
      what u mean what i mean?
Mar 24th 2005
3
           Both.
Mar 24th 2005
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                Well...
Mar 24th 2005
5
                     Shame about the source
Mar 24th 2005
8
nationalism is inherently anti-democratic
Mar 24th 2005
6
how so? because you have to squash dissention?
Mar 24th 2005
7
nationalism is a trait commonly found in fascist social structures
Mar 24th 2005
18
      I can see that. expound.
Mar 24th 2005
19
      why you don't like talking in subject lines???
Mar 24th 2005
20
      i've just read an article on "the death of panarabian nationalism"
Mar 25th 2005
30
           prolly panarabianism... i.e. ba'ath movement
Mar 25th 2005
39
                hmm that and other things
Mar 25th 2005
40
                     but Kuwait was part of Iraq, Lebanon part of Syria
Mar 25th 2005
42
                          is it that simple ?
Mar 26th 2005
49
                               Lebanese folk WANT to be part of Syria
Mar 26th 2005
50
                                    ahahahah yeah right
Mar 26th 2005
51
                                         RE: ahahahah yeah right
Mar 26th 2005
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                                              does this prove Lebanese want to be part of Syria ?
Mar 27th 2005
57
                                                   if you're shia and in Lebanon, you want Syria to stay
Mar 27th 2005
58
                                                        so it's an either this or that situation ?
Mar 27th 2005
60
                                                             most ppl believe israel's gonna go on an invasion frenzy...
Mar 27th 2005
61
                                                                  I don't think the Shia's constitute a majority
Mar 28th 2005
70
but necesary in the face of racism
Mar 24th 2005
11
that's not nationalism
Mar 24th 2005
17
true , in the sense you're talking about
Mar 24th 2005
21
RE: but necesary in the face of racism
Mar 28th 2005
65
Democracy works within groups
Mar 24th 2005
14
      Afrikaaners during Apartheid: nationalistic and democratic
Mar 25th 2005
36
           RE: Afrikaaners during Apartheid: nationalistic and democratic
Mar 28th 2005
68
                hence the problem of democracy and nationalism
Mar 29th 2005
73
In a racist country, you'd better have some masculine energy
Mar 24th 2005
9
um...
Mar 25th 2005
44
      baby, I married one Indian lady and my girlfriend isONE too.
Mar 26th 2005
52
      rhetoric.false.martyr. but it worked.
Mar 26th 2005
54
      what did you thnk of my "idea" about CLINTON/LEWINSKY?
Mar 26th 2005
55
It depends on the case
Mar 24th 2005
10
How can it not be necessary in America?
Mar 24th 2005
12
RE: How can it not be necessary in America?
Mar 24th 2005
13
      Exactly.
Mar 24th 2005
15
      namean?
Mar 24th 2005
16
      and??? "SIZE AIN"T SHIT" (TO ENGLAND>>>>? WHY NOT?
Mar 27th 2005
56
lets define nationalism then
Mar 24th 2005
22
What type are you looking for?
Mar 24th 2005
24
sharing is caring doggie
Mar 24th 2005
25
RE: What typos are you looking for?
Mar 28th 2005
66
I think what I've been working with is
Mar 24th 2005
27
Look at Africans in Amerikkka and you have your answer
Mar 24th 2005
23
how, exactly is it obvious?
Mar 24th 2005
26
      It isn't most of us have been suckered into that illusion of inclusion
Mar 24th 2005
29
           RE: It isn't most of us have been suckered into that illusion of inclusi...
Mar 27th 2005
59
           ILLUSION OF INCLUSION.... NO, We ALL HAVE BEEN SUCKERED. HOUDINI Questio...
Mar 28th 2005
67
RE: Is Nationalism necessary?
Mar 24th 2005
28
interesting question
Mar 25th 2005
31
true. and how do you temper such a thing?
Mar 25th 2005
32
      the addition of other ideals ?
Mar 25th 2005
33
don't every groups naturally got it though ?
Mar 25th 2005
34
Yeah. I think it's a natural progression.
Mar 25th 2005
35
RE: Yeah. I think it's a natural progression.
Mar 25th 2005
37
      you NEED a level of egocentrism/selfishness in your life though, right ?
Mar 25th 2005
38
           exactly. and a group, as Malachi's boss was saying in his
Mar 25th 2005
46
You need a tangible rallying point.
Mar 25th 2005
41
i'm reading chancellor wms right now
Mar 25th 2005
43
Question is, what is the rallying cry that will transcend
Mar 25th 2005
45
      Moral or intellectual.
Mar 25th 2005
47
           All of those boundaries are significant ones.
Mar 25th 2005
48
nationalism scares me
Mar 28th 2005
62
Doesn't sound too different from US nationalism
Mar 28th 2005
64
RE: nationalism scares me
Mar 28th 2005
69
A simple answer to your question is...
Mar 28th 2005
63
Nationalism in it's current connotation is relativley new.
Mar 29th 2005
74
      Nationalism or economical interests ?
Mar 29th 2005
75
      Can't one argue that economical interests could be a
Mar 29th 2005
78
          
      RE: Nationalism in it's current connotation is relativley new.
Mar 29th 2005
76
           so would you argue this could be because of literacy?
Mar 29th 2005
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                RE: so would you argue this could be because of literacy?
Mar 29th 2005
79
RE: Is Nationalism necessary?
Mar 28th 2005
71
Mmm...
Mar 28th 2005
72

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