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28. "No dude, I'M SORRY..."
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>Hate to burst your bubble, but this guy Oyibo is what we
>call a crackpot. My group gets a stack of unpublishable,
>meaningless, incoherent, chrisdefendorf style papers every
>week from dudes who claim to have a "Grand Unified Theory"
>or a "Theory of Everything." They're full of words, and
>"ideas" about where Einstein "went wrong," but there is
>rarely any mathematics and never any logic.
>
>I took your advice and looked into his background, just for
>fun. If he'd ever published anything related to fundamental
>physics, I would have seen it. I study quantum gravity and
>other quantum field theories. It's my job and I spend a LOT
>of time going through all the reputable journals. But I'd
>never heard of Dr. Oyibo until you mentioned him.

Dr. Oyibo has published several articles and books, 7 (yes, SEVEN) of which are available for sale on Amazon.com.
Guess it's possible that you DON'T know everything...

>It turns out he's an interesting kind of crackpot, one with
>a PhD. His PhD, however, is not in any branch of
>fundamental physics, but rather in fluid dynamics (a very
>important and interesting field of study, but far afield
>from issues of fundamental structure). But despite this
>PhD, and whatever work he has actually done in his own field
>(and I don't doubt that there could be some), we must still
>refer to him as Dr. Oyibo, and not as Professor Oyibo. He
>has not gained tenure. Pretty surprising for a guy who
>understands the deepest mysteries of the physical universe.

This is completely unrelated to his credentials or accomplishments, stop taking cheap shots and focus on what we're talking about here, Mr. Physicist...


>He claims to have been nominated twice for Nobel Prizes, yet
>he appears to have published only ten distinct papers.
>That's a pretty strong batting record! He claims to have
>found a general solution to the Navier-Stokes equations, one
>of the great outstanding problems in all of mathematics, yet
>he has not published his solution, even if only to claim the
>million-dollar prize being offered by the Clay Mathematical
>Institute.
(see below please)

>He claims to have a "Theory of Everything," and the one
>university in the world which gives him the benefit of the
>doubt, and invites him to talk about it publicly, is
>rebuked. He responds with something of the nature "I don't
>have to prove my theory, you need to disprove it." First of
>all, physical theories cannot be "proven" or "disproven."
>The words are not even used by serious physicists. Theories
>are either supported, or refuted, by experimental evidence.
>In the end, that's all we have, and that fact defines
>physics. There is always some degree of experimental
>uncertainty, and thus never any proof in the logical sense.

If you go to the website of OFAPPIT Institute of Technology (Oyibo's research home), you will find a lot more real information about him, such as the following:

"Over 2,000 students, staff and professors of Harvard University, Columbia University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), State University of New York at Stony Brook (SUNY Stony Brook), Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute ( RPI) and New York University (NYU) have requested their respective administrations to invite Professor Gabriel Oyibo, the discoverer of God Almighty’s Grand Unified Theorem (GAGUT) otherwise called the Unified Field Theory or The Theory of Everything to present the discovery in school-wide symposiums at their respective universities.

In making the discovery Prof. G. Oyibo has finished the work of Professor Albert Einstein, who had championed the search for this all-encompassing theory on the origin of the universe in modern times. It is considered the Holy Grail of mathematics and physics. Professor G. Oyibo formally published the discovery in 1999 and the entire world was stunned by the revelation. There was great deal of skepticism, a reaction that is consistent with and expected of such a significant discovery. The skepticism varied from outright disbelief to restricted and qualified acceptance of the discovery.
(like you)

The GAGUT discovery has been published in a reputable mathematics journal that has readership in the most prestigious universities. The GAGUT discovery is recognized by the American and European Mathematical Societies as well as the American Institute of Physics...The GAGUT discovery has also been recognized by over 2,000 students, staff and professors from the following schools: Harvard University (120); 2. Columbia University (300); 3. MIT(296); 4. SUNY Stony Brook (1,070 ); 5. RPI (300); 6. NYU (300).

You still with me, smarty pants?? I guess these schools are wrong too.

>But even if we excuse his untidy language, the fact that he
>is unwilling to duscuss his GAGUT openly in an academic
>setting is a huge sign that even he knows that his "ideas"
>are bullshit. Most crackpots search out the academic
>conferences (at least, those which don't require any
>scientific credentials) in order to spread their "ideas" and
>finally become famous. But he, being the rare crackpot who
>actually knows some science, understands that he has
>absolutely nothing to support his claims.

Einstein was considered a crackpot in his day, so were Copernicus and Newton. SO, that statement doesn;t concern me in the slightest...What does concern me is your eagerness to discredit and dispute the claim without thoroughly researching before you speak. And for you to be in the scientific field, knowing the importance of empirical evidence, how can you look on one website and trash the man's accomplishments like that?
1) You said his Ph.D is in fluid dynamics, but in actuality he has his Ph. D. in Aeronautics and Mathematics from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) Troy, New York where he worked for four (4) years on NASA/AFOSR sponsored research. (some crackpot, huh?)
2) You said he hasn't written any books, and I showed them to you. (on AMAZON, there are 7)
3) You said that he has never proven the Navier-Stokes equation, and I showed you where Harvard's Clay School of Mathematics publicly recognizes his work.
4) You said that only one school recognized him and invited him to speak, I showed you 5.
5) You said he is unwilling to discuss GAGUT publicly, however between his many books and the interviews and transcripts found on his website, that is again, FALSE

Maybe you should research his work for real then get back to me.

  

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Descartes proof for the existence of God, [View all] , thoughtremedy, Mon Jan-24-05 04:29 PM
 
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RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 24th 2005
1
RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 26th 2005
13
RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 26th 2005
22
      RE: excuse me but,
Jan 26th 2005
24
RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 27th 2005
37
      I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Jan 27th 2005
43
      RE: I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Jan 29th 2005
44
      dude, you need to read some Camus posthaste
Jan 29th 2005
55
      Camus and Sartre...
Jan 31st 2005
65
           understood n/m
Jan 31st 2005
68
      RE: I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Jan 31st 2005
61
           RE: I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Jan 31st 2005
66
                RE: I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Feb 01st 2005
69
                     RE: I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Feb 05th 2005
73
                          What the hell?!
Feb 05th 2005
74
                               RE: What the hell?!
Feb 06th 2005
75
                                    RE: What the hell?!
Feb 06th 2005
76
                                         Theology part of philosophy?
Feb 06th 2005
78
                                         RE: Theology part of philosophy?
Feb 07th 2005
81
                                              RE: Theology part of philosophy?
Feb 16th 2005
91
                                                   RE: Theology part of philosophy?
Feb 16th 2005
92
                                                        How am I "cryptic"?
Feb 16th 2005
93
                                                             Postmodernism = Bullshit,
Feb 16th 2005
94
                                                                  these guys ain't postmodernists
Feb 16th 2005
95
                                                                       RE: these guys ain't postmodernists
Feb 16th 2005
96
                                         RE: What the hell?!
Feb 06th 2005
79
                                              RE: What the hell?!
Feb 07th 2005
82
                                                   RE: What the hell?!
Feb 07th 2005
83
                                                        RE: What the hell?!
Feb 07th 2005
84
                                                             RE: What the hell?!
Feb 07th 2005
87
                                                                  RE: What the hell?!
Feb 15th 2005
90
                                                                       RE: What the hell?!
Feb 19th 2005
97
      RE: I won't pretend to speak for SH,
Jan 29th 2005
56
           okay...
Jan 30th 2005
60
                it's wrong, because your statement is not right
Jan 31st 2005
63
                     RE: it's wrong, because your statement is not right
Jan 31st 2005
64
                          an that's the crucial point
Feb 08th 2005
89
      inVerse, is that you?
Jan 29th 2005
51
           It is him.
Feb 06th 2005
77
                no, I'm not Inverse...
Feb 06th 2005
80
                     I was just joking
Feb 07th 2005
86
                          I realized this, but..
Feb 07th 2005
88
Why do you need proof?
Jan 24th 2005
2
RE: Why do you need proof?
Jan 24th 2005
3
Nice circular logic...
Jan 24th 2005
4
Nice Logical Self-Contradiction
Jan 26th 2005
14
Nice try
Jan 26th 2005
20
      hahahahahahaha!
Jan 26th 2005
21
      RE: Nice try
Jan 27th 2005
38
Faith
Jan 27th 2005
40
RE: Why do you need proof?
Jan 26th 2005
15
      RE: Why do you need proof?
Jan 26th 2005
31
      RE: incorrect context of "i think",
Jan 27th 2005
35
           Like I said, it's an assumption
Jan 27th 2005
41
                RE: a question,
Jan 29th 2005
45
                     what is it then if not an assumption?
Jan 29th 2005
48
                          RE: what about the act of thought?
Jan 29th 2005
49
                               RE: what about the act of thought?
Jan 29th 2005
50
                                    RE: interesting,
Jan 29th 2005
52
                                         The problem with Descartes
Jan 29th 2005
53
                                              RE: Thanks,
Jan 29th 2005
54
      RE: Why do you need proof?
Jan 27th 2005
42
Maybe its just over my head, but
Jan 24th 2005
5
RE: Maybe its just over my head, but
Jan 26th 2005
16
      I'm pretty sure it isn't logic
Jan 27th 2005
36
RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 24th 2005
6
RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 24th 2005
7
*sigh*
Jan 24th 2005
8
Look up GAGUT...
Jan 25th 2005
10
Sorry, dude.
Jan 25th 2005
12
     
           RE: No dude, I'M SORRY...
Jan 26th 2005
33
                that's harsh... lol
Jan 27th 2005
34
RE: *sigh*
Jan 26th 2005
18
      arright, I've got some time
Jan 26th 2005
25
           RE: arright, I've got some time
Jan 29th 2005
46
                RE: arright, I've got some time
Jan 31st 2005
62
RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Jan 24th 2005
9
ease up on the clich
Jan 26th 2005
17
      ease up on the bullshit
Jan 26th 2005
26
      tell me...
Jan 26th 2005
29
      RE: ease up on the clich
Jan 26th 2005
27
           oh man I'm an idiot....
Jan 26th 2005
30
excuse me, but how can a candle melt in infinite ways?
Jan 25th 2005
11
RE: think of it,
Jan 26th 2005
19
      RE: think of it,
Jan 26th 2005
23
invents?
Jan 26th 2005
32
You are not Descartes.
Jan 27th 2005
39
RE: I know,
Jan 29th 2005
47
      No, dude, that's not what I'm saying...
Jan 31st 2005
67
What am I (God)?
Jan 30th 2005
57
Your just a bunch of memories
Jan 30th 2005
58
you being one of them
Jan 30th 2005
59
"I feel therefore I exist"
Feb 01st 2005
70
This is a romanticist's worldview!!!
Feb 01st 2005
71
      So be it
Feb 01st 2005
72
hematite, bitche!!!! and the animal & mineral kingdom, jahlove7
Feb 07th 2005
85

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