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7. "RE: You need to get off of that Rush Limbaugh shit."
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>>
>>Some numbers are relevant, some numbers are not. Your
>>numbers are not relevant.
>>
>>Why in the hell does it matter what percentage of the total
>>"burden" is carried by whom?
>
>it matters cause yall say it does.

Um, no we don't.

>everyday there is
>bitching about the rich not paying their fair share.

When we say that, we mean that the poor are burdened by the taxes they pay, while the rich are not. Their "fair share" is more than that for the poor.

>5
>percent of the population carry more than half of the
>burden.
>
>
>>The burden that matters is the one being placed on the
>>*individuals*, and the harm it does to them. The rich
>>aren't being driven to the poor-house by their capital gains
>>taxes.
>
>of course not. capitalism rewards those who take risks and
>those that drive the economy because those things are good
>for society.

The rich are not the ones driving the economy. The more money they hoard, the less they are using to drive the economy. It's the middle class, those people who exist in large numbers, have some money, and are likely to spend significant amounts of it in a short period of time, who drive the economy.

>overly taxing the rich gives less incentive for
>people to work hard so that their large sums of money can be
>taxed for your lazy ass.

Do you actually think that the richest 5% are also the ones who work hardest?

>>
>>
>>And by the way, if it's true that 52 percent of the taxes
>>are being paid by a handful of people, it's not a sign that
>>they are paying too much in taxes, it's a sign that they are
>>more rich than they have any right to be.
>
>lol! socialist line #1

I'm not ashamed to be a socialist. You should be ashamed of spewing this Ayn Rand bullshit like it's a religion.

>'more rich than they have the right
>to be.' last time i checked we lived in a free country where
>creating massive sums of wealth is all part of working hard
>and taking risks.

Maybe it would be if those large sums were then redistributed at death. Unfortunately nowadays controlling "massive sums of wealth" is all a part of having ancestors who gave it to you. Either that, or being lucky enough to live under a government without the balls to break up a monopoly.

  

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the old tax burden [View all] , foxnesn, Mon Feb-07-05 12:21 PM
 
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In order for your statement to be valid logically
Feb 07th 2005
1
RE: In order for your statement to be valid logically
Feb 07th 2005
3
Rich people aren't rich because they have a 9 to 5
Feb 07th 2005
2
Most people in the top 5% are the "Working Rich"
Mar 05th 2005
13
      mission accomplished. respect +
Mar 06th 2005
18
      are you blind?
Mar 07th 2005
24
           Elaborate (Again)
Mar 07th 2005
26
                RE: Elaborate (Again)
Mar 07th 2005
31
                     You don't understand what you read
Mar 07th 2005
32
                          there you go again...
Mar 08th 2005
36
You need to get off of that Rush Limbaugh shit.
Feb 07th 2005
4
RE: You need to get off of that Rush Limbaugh shit.
Feb 08th 2005
5
     
Are you one of the aforementioned rich folk?
Feb 08th 2005
6
lol n/m
Feb 08th 2005
8
lmao
Feb 08th 2005
9
      It's called 'being a community stakeholder'.
Feb 08th 2005
10
You like the flat tax concept?
Mar 05th 2005
11
4th Grade Math Lesson
Mar 05th 2005
12
once again
Mar 06th 2005
15
      Explain.
Mar 06th 2005
17
      Explain your position or shut-up
Mar 07th 2005
23
      lol
Mar 07th 2005
28
Have you been watching FOX again?
Mar 06th 2005
14
i see you are missing your brain again...
Mar 06th 2005
16
I weep for the rich
Mar 06th 2005
19
im not saying that
Mar 07th 2005
21
      who the fuck thinks that?
Mar 07th 2005
22
           i hear it ALL the time
Mar 07th 2005
25
                i agree with that / don't change the topic mid-stream
Mar 07th 2005
27
                     paging Mr. Literal...
Mar 07th 2005
29
the top 1% of U.S. citizens owns more wealth than the bottom 95%
Mar 06th 2005
20
Foxie is a broke-ass Expertise.
Mar 07th 2005
30
The Funny Thing
Mar 07th 2005
33
there's no argument to "try" to make.
Mar 07th 2005
34
      Answer
Mar 07th 2005
35
      bangs head against wall!!
Mar 08th 2005
38
      dude, you need to stop doing that
Mar 08th 2005
40
           this thread turned to pure shit
Mar 08th 2005
49
                here's the problem
Mar 08th 2005
50
      RE: Answer
Mar 08th 2005
42
      no, the "burden" doesn't continue to get bigger
Mar 08th 2005
39
      Show proof...
Mar 08th 2005
43
           grasp this concept
Mar 08th 2005
44
                you haven't shown anything yet.
Mar 08th 2005
45
                     that's ridiculous
Mar 08th 2005
46
                          I think that's what "burden of the taxes" means.
Mar 08th 2005
47
                               regardless of your interpretation
Mar 08th 2005
48
                                    its called a tax 'burden' for a reason
Mar 08th 2005
51
                                         absolutes vs. percentage
Mar 08th 2005
52
                                              RE: absolutes vs. percentage
Mar 10th 2005
55
                                                   *sigh*
Mar 11th 2005
57
                                                        stop putitng words in my mouth
Mar 11th 2005
59
      Umm you missed the point
Mar 11th 2005
56
um...
Mar 08th 2005
37
      And what might those issues be?
Mar 08th 2005
41
           RE: And what might those issues be?
Mar 08th 2005
53
                Wait. Isn't Ex a Libertarian?
Mar 08th 2005
54
Tax Burden is about the Individual
Mar 11th 2005
58
*knocks M2 off his high horse*
Mar 11th 2005
60
      You've obviously gone daft
Mar 11th 2005
61
           typical
Mar 12th 2005
62
                you mean the one where he says this:
Mar 12th 2005
63
                     for the last damn time
Mar 17th 2005
65
                          the plague, i tells ya.
Mar 17th 2005
66
                               RE: the plague, i tells ya.
Mar 17th 2005
67
                                    first post.
Mar 17th 2005
68
up
Mar 17th 2005
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